I am so so disappointed

[Bitwit1234]

It used to be a treat to come to this place. You got all the news, you got all the fun and the dirt on the republicans.

Now all you get is slur, slam, flame and dirt bagging Hillary Clinton. We ought to change the name of the site, after all that's all Obama supporters do.

Please lets go back to be civil. I don't know where these republican types came from but I wish they would stop.

And don't say Hillary supporters flame, slur and bash. All the do is try to defend Hillary. There is so much mis-information because it is related to Hillary slams you just don't like to read them any more.

[Lars39]

1. Kick the decent threads up and don't participate in the bad ones.

easy peasy

[LeftCoast]

2. Hmm...so in a post lamenting all the bashing, you bash Obama supporters?

Sorry, but that's just incredibly silly.

[B Calm]

69. That was my thoughts too..

GO EDWARDS!

[CountAllVotes]

3. no one is forcing you to read the stuff

I don't.

I go on anyway.

[Lex]

4. Welcome to primary season.

I was here during the last presidential primary season.

It's the same deal as last time.

Everyone will settle down with each other eventually, after our nominee is picked.

[mmonk]

5. Hardly.

"And don't say Hillary supporters flame, slur and bash. All the do is try to defend Hillary."

[soothsayer]

6. Stay over in LBN and you'll be happy.

[Connie_Corleone]

7. This is from someone who goes on Obama threads to bash him or his supporters.

Whatever. :eyes:

[madokie]

8. self delete

peace

[frogcycle]

9. I agree with everything except the part

about "All they do is try to defend Hillary."

you cannot put the name Biden or Edwards in a thread in any context without the same talking points being posted almost immediately. And they are not talking points "defending" Hillary. They include such words as "phony" and "plagiarism" - over, and over, and over.

You are right about the toxic atmosphere, but wrong about it being one-sided.

Oh, and exactly what is "after all that's all Obama supporters do." ??

oh, yeah, it is something "these republican types " would say!

[walldude]

10. Bullshit... and I'll call it again.. Bullshit

and your sad little schtick is getting old..

Granted DU has become a mess but it's not because people are "bashing" Hillary. It's because a site built on the idea that dissent is an American tradition is becoming a place where dissent is not welcome anymore. Maybe you are part of the problem.

[TahitiNut]

18. Agreed.

There's just not enough cheese for all the whines from the Hillbots. I've seen ten times as many 'bashes' of Kucinich as I've seen of Clinton, and 100 times as many whining, crybaby posts complaining about how "unfair" DUers are to Clinton. ("No fair! She's a girl!" - is the apparent theme)

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. "hillbots?" "crybaby?"

Dang, what hostility. I believe that would be example number one.

[walldude]

42. Well when your opinion is called bashing and you are

accused of "bringing down DU" because you have the nerve to actually disagree with whoever is the "candidate du jour" you have a slight tendency to get annoyed. Maybe you should check out the hypocrite's.. sorry I mean OP's track record before getting all defensive.

[Evergreen Emerald]

45. Please. Where have you been?

Did you miss the hostage situation, or were you part of it? When, not even when young democrat's lives were threatened, did the Clinton bashing stop. It was disgusting. And ugly and divisive. Distortion, lies, repeating the proven lies, just for a short-term win for your candidate. It is NOT democracy, it is reprehensible.

Deny all you want.

[walldude]

52. Well I have been out of town, I work on the road

so I'm not here as much as I used to be. However I have seen much of the "bashing" you are so fond of pointing out without the "hostage crisis". Most of it amounts to facts that pro-Hillary people don't like and can't disprove. Sure there are some assholes on DU who just like to provoke shit but you are barking up the wrong tree with me. Besides the OP is one of the worst "bashers" on DU but I guess it's OK with you since he doesn't bash Hillary. As far as "my" candidate is concerned I don't have one. My candidate will probably be green so I can't discuss that here... Might cost "your" candidate the election...

[flyarm]

33. ahhh you could not be more correct!! and i try..yes try, to ignore it

but the hillary people have flooded these board s with the same crap over and over again..
they have done a marvelous job making me equate themselves and her to the * ploys/talking points game and propaganda!

i feel like i am watching "Ground Hog Day" movie with the same crap regurgitated, just like the past 7 years...over and over again they go.

fly

[bobbolink]

73. Well, crikey... what's a girl to do?

:rofl:

[frankenforpres]

59. used to be rules

they are not enforced



certain threads are valid critiques about policy positions


others just call hillary a bitch. i would think the first female or black pres would be an exciting time for DU, but man was i wrong. A lot of posts on DU lately are very ugly, towards the candidates and each other

[flyarm]

76. sorry i am here quite a bit ..never seen the b word used for hillary..can you please

document that?

or point us to where someone posted that without an alert going out?

honestly...i have yet to see that.

fly

[peacebird]

11. there's a great little feature called "ignore". It is your friend. When you find people who engage

in nothing but bashing one candidate (generally without facts or links) while claiming THEIR chosen ones sh*t don't stink - simply put them on "ignore".

Problem solved.

[TahitiNut]

12. Again?

[glowing]

13. I really think there is a few posters for Hillary and a few for Obama

and everyday is a slugfest, and then a few of the Kucinich clan jump in and say its not bashing to point out where someone's policy is failed... So, I do believe this is overhyped... If you don't want to read these type of villifying, name calling posts, don't... there are still plenty of good posts and news and discussion. I normally don't even click on them.. but it started out I am so dissapointed... so, I thought some piece of bad legislation was up or something else...

[Bitwit1234]

14. There is one thing when you support your guy and you have that right

but it really belittles you and your candidate when instead of telling all the good stuff about Obama you people post any piece of crap you can find about Hillary. That's what I say. If I wanted to bash Obama and I don't, I could surf the net and post one right after the other.

But I think republican tatics are beneath REAL DEMOCRATS. PERIOD.

[LeftCoast]

Huh. You really don't see the irony here do you?

[TahitiNut]

19. Obviously not.

:eyes: It's almost a parody of projection.

[flyarm]

35. oh yes indeed!! eom

[LeftCoast]

17. Dupe

[waiting for hope]

24. This thread is worthless -

When Clinton supporters post replies like this:

"That's why the are always posting Hillary hate. Their candidate is such a non-enity they are jealous as hell of her."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3777492

No wonder this is such discourse - your arrogance almost surpasses Senator Clinton's.

[flyarm]

34. POT MEET KETTLE..you are saying others are using replublican tactics..

i believe some hillary supporters are using tactics that are suspect..and i don't support Obama..so cut it off there.

but with Mark Penn being Hillary's Campaign advisor i would expect nothing different than what we are seeing..twist, turn , and project the opposites..haven't we all seen this the past 7 years??????????

fly

[bagrman]

75. NO she dosen't Yes she does No she doesn't Yes she does.

So where are the posts and links for all of Clintons good points. IF you want change in the government then you have to vote for it. voting for the same oh some oh, isn't going to change anything. What will it take to get the White House away for the Corporatist that are in charge now, and send some criminals to jail? Who is going to swing all the Republican voters needed for a clear win? Sorry it ain't Clinton.

[Benhurst]

15. I'm afraid during primary season it all goes with the turf.

A few Hillary and Obama groupies stand out this cycle; but last time around (2003-2004) there was a particularly obnoxious Edwards supporter who would go the attack against anyone who expressed even the slightest doubt about the senator's record.

One thing to remember, though, is the candidate so "honored" by such support is not responsible for it.

[Marr]

16. I'm so sick of this whiney, handwringing crap from Hillary supporters.

It *is* mostly Hillary supporters who whine in this specific way, and I know why. Here's the fact:

DU has always been this way during primary season. I've been hanging around since 2001, and this is the same place it was back then-- better, in fact, because it's more populated and we're finally beginning to push forward instead of just commiserating about Bush actions.

Hillary Clinton's supporters are frustrated because she's trending down. They want everyone to just 'shut the fuck up' and let her glide into a win. That's not going to happen. Just accept it and stop whining.

[LeftCoast]

22. I'm tired of all the "True Believers" supporting Clinton, Obama, Edwards AND Kucinich

None of the candidates are perfect. Your candidate does not shit rose petals.

At the same time they're all far better than the most liberal republican on virtually every subject. Even (fill in the blank).

[Lex]

30. Amen.

"Your candidate does not shit rose petals." :rofl:

[LeftCoast]

36. Hi Lex!

I don't know why that phrase popped into my head. :)

[Marr]

31. That always annoys me as well. But I understand people want to sell

their chosen candidate or whatever. It's the people offering endless cries that we should all just shut up that bothers me most.

By the way, I actually read that Kucinich does in fact shit rose petals, but I only bring it up in response to your assertion.

[LeftCoast]

37. It's not the selling, it's the tearing down

We're all going to have to work together to get the eventual nominee to win.

And regarding Kucinich...if he is vegan as I've heard, then I suppose it is a little more likely that he does. :)

[Buns_of_Fire]

53. Kooch DOESN'T shit rose petals? Damn!

Ah, how we are constantly disappointed by our candidates. Obviously, some realignment of my priorities is in order.

While I work this out, I suggest everyone else join in a rousing rendition of Kumbaya, after they finish herding the cats.:grouphug:

[blondeatlast]

60. LIES! There is no evidence suggesting that he doesn't.

And his wife is hot!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Buns_of_Fire]

61. Ah, the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" argument...

Or does this fall under the "unknown unknowns" category? Lordy, too much Rumsfeld-speak has infected my brain over the last seven years. Mike Wallace, where are you when we need you?

But you're right. Since his wife is hot, I'll put him back on my "A" list. Besides, he's the only candidate I'm taller than.

But I'd still like to know what Mike Wallace comes up with on this. :-)

[Vanje]

21. Every 3-7 days you recycle this post

You're funny!

[WillyT]

23. To Quote A Certain Famous Democrat: "If You Can't Stand The Heat...

get out of the kitchen."

Harry Truman

:shrug:

[madmunchie]

26. Great Quote, Here however it should read "If you can't stand the

heat, flame, alert and get the thread closed."

[madmunchie]

25. If candidate supporters say that about Obama supporters, believe me, he isn't

the only candidate that has supporters that start flame wars purposely to get threads shut down because they don't want their candidate challenged. There are plenty of other candidate's supporters that should be accused of the same thing.

It is a tactic that is rather successful on this board. Too bad the tactics are so transparent and that they actually work.

That is, unfortunately, what we must deal with here.

[shadowknows69]

27. Must..... Resist......Taking...... Yellow.....Pill.....Now......

Ah...Better. Happy Sunday everyone.

[acmavm]

28. Politics are a rough game. Can't take it, don't play. The Hils and Barrie

people have been providing some excellent entertainment, between anger, name calling, and the crying. It's been the only thing that's made this loooooonnnnnnggggg drawn-out campaign season bearable.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

29. Here we go again... does someone force you to post this drivel?

[HowHasItComeToThis]

32. THERE IS A SITE ON DU THAT SHOW WHERE WE ARE FROM

THERE ARE A TON OF SOUTHERNERS

[Shakespeare]

41. what a weird post

I have NO idea what you're talking about.

[immoderate]

46. You not understand Gubbish?

--IMM

[immoderate]

38. This is a joke, right?

Can someone pull up the classic "Your candidate sucks!" thread of the last primary? :shrug:

We can talk about candidates, but no negatives? :rofl:

--IMM

[walldude]

43. No.. just no negatives about Hillary.. no fair picking on a girl..

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[immoderate]

48. Hey! No laughing!

:P

--IMM

[Renew Deal]

39. Skinner: The Democratic Primary on DU: The Lower Your Expectations, the Happier You Will Be.

Read this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=812912

[Arugula Latte]

40. Thanks for your concern. nt

[Renew Deal]

44. You are such a hypocrite on this.

All you do is attack anyone that says anything about Hillary. You accuse those people here of being Obama supporters which they often aren't. You're as much of a contributor to the problem as anyone. Here's a small list of threads. There's many more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3780932#3780990

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3782119#3782184

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3777353&mesg_id=3777797

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3629705#3629760

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3721251#3721348

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2293092#2293341

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3723034#3723563

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2292789

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3713442&mesg_id=3713518

[Inspired]

47. Cry me a river. My ignore list is full of Hillary supporters.

I don't have one single Obama supporter on the list. And I don't support Obama. I don't have one single Biden, Kucinich, Richardson or Dodd supporter on the list. And it isn't because they go easy on the candidate I support.

It's because I have found several Hillary supporters to be rude, arrogant, condescending and mean spirited. It makes me wonder if it is true that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[blondeatlast]

49. "Pot, this is kettle. Kettle, this is pot. Clasp hands and come out fighting." nt

[Lone_Star_Dem]

51. Mano a mano. May the best one win!

:thumbsup: :rofl:

[walldude]

56. Hey thats the sidewalk chalk guy!

Is he amazing or what?


Sorry to change the subject but that dude just amazes me..

[Lone_Star_Dem]

58. It sure is! Julian Beever is his name.

He really is amazing.

If you ever feel like a treat go to youtube and search for his name. Lots of great vids there of him creating his art. :)

Edit: I did the youtube search for you, just in case you're in the mood. :P http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Julian+Beever&search=Search

[Greyhound]

50. LOL! Try supporting DK here. It is a shame that, really a very few, a-holes

screw it up far all, but that is the amerikan way. Maybe it's the human way.

[blondeatlast]

54. Random thread from April 2004 for your guilty enjoyment...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1336020

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[blondeatlast]

55. Yanno what sucks? Try supporting

NOBODY yet.

Nobody loves me, everybody hates me.

I hate grade school; I want out... :nopity:

[clovis29]

66. Just gonna wat worms? ;) n/t

[countingbluecars]

57. What?

Has O’Reilly taken over? It's the "War on Hillary"!

[BlueJac]

62. Just quit cryin' about Hillary...........

and quit blaming Obama supporters.

I support neither.

:cry:

[Boogie_VII]

63. Hillary Clinton deserves to be slurred, flammed, and dirt bagged.

Horrible presidential candidate.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. Awww..poor widdle Hillary. What do you think she's running for? Head Librarian?

The people are supposed to question the qualifications of the candidates and what they have said, how they've voted, who's financing them, etc.

She, like all the rest, are candidates for the highest office in the country. If she, or the others, don't like being questioned, bespattered, ridiculed, called names, and held to account for their antics, they really should look for another line of work.

[LittleClarkie]

65. I think it's happening with and to all the candidates

I wouldn't single out Obama supporters for the problem.

[Richard Steele]

67. What a steaming pile of hypocrisy. (AGAIN!)

[Blue-Jay]

68. Yes, because there are never Obama-bashing threads here at DU.

Way to go Nitwit Bitwit!

[L0oniX]

70. I agree ...lets change it to www.Hillary24-7blog.com

:sarcasm:

[ms liberty]

71. To be fair, it's not just the anti Hillary people, it's also the anti Obama people, and...

the anti Edwards people, and so on. But you could also call them the pro Hillary people and the pro Obama people or the pro Edwards people and so on again. Most of the candidates have adherents here at DU continually praising or bashing them right now. And it's not going to stop, probably, until after the primary season. It may even get worse before it gets better.

I say that as someone who has not chosen a candidate yet, and I ignore most of the threads related to the candidates, particularly the front runners or threads with provacative titles.

What we have going on now is what I like to think of as the traditional "Running of the Partisans" here at DU, where during the primary season of a race, members who've chosen "their" candidate try to crush the opposition to dust under their verbal jackboot. It lasts much longer than the Running of the Bulls, and while it does not result in encounters of physical violence or injury - usually - the metaphoric violence can be brutal and devastating. Many will fall prey to the dueling flamewars between the partisans, and none are so vicious as those encountered in the primary season of a Presidential race. One must be quite thick-skinned at DU during this season just to survive...

[H2O Man]

72. Pot-stirring. n/t

[marmar]

74. Civility begins at home.....

:think:

[EV_Ares]

77. Another bitwit bashing post. Unbelievable, do you ever read your own

posts. Yeah, you are right about getting the slur, slam, flame and dirt bagging from your posts especially and here you are basically doing it again.

Want to go back to being civil, you need to look in a mirror at yourself to help others get started.

Read your post and what you just said.

[robinlynne]

78. The problem IS the republicans. The dlc is consistently voting republican,

handing them power instead of the democrats,and she is a big part of the dlc.
She is very close to being a republican. And she takes millions of dollars from the most republican of companies: carlyle group, at&t, which makes it look as if she will move even further to the right if she is allowed to take office.

So, when you mention republican types, you have th wrong people in mind. We're doing our best to get rid of republicans, no matter what letter is after their name. (I'm thinking Feinstein when I write this, not HRC.)

[peacebaby3]

79. Is this Joke? Should I have typed IN ALL CAPS? n/t

[autorank]

80. :)

:)

[MadBadger]

81. ALL YOU DO IS BASH OBAMA!!!

And his supporters. And yes, Caps are needed. You are the biggest Obama Basher on this board and yet you think you have the moral authority to put down the rest of us. You've got some nerve.

[here_is_to_hope]

82. Yeah, whatever....

I have far more Hilbots on ignore than Obamabots...
And I tend to not read threads about any candidate...