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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:03 AM
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Bruce Tinsley lowers the bar. To support a claim in Mallard Fillmore, he quotes...
Jonah Goldberg.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/mallard.asp

:rofl: :silly:
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Boogie Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:05 AM
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1. Who? and who?
and that last one. I don't know who that one is either.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:07 AM
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2. I will do you a favor...
and not tell you. You'll be so much better off.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:10 AM
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3. that may be the best answer ever
:)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:33 AM
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4. Has Tinsley gotten out of jail for that DUI conviction already?
Those conservatives are just more moral than us liberals, you know.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 10:31 AM
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5. funny, mallard fillmore never mentions his alcohol problem nt
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 10:45 AM
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6. Hey, if I give 7% of my salary to Pastor Bob's MegaChurch™ to distribute bibles..
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 10:45 AM by MilesColtrane
in the Sudan, or to build a new youth bowling wing onto the church, that counts as charity, right?

I'm highly skeptical of Arthur Brooks' statistics about "compassionate conservatives".
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 11:23 AM
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7. If You Read the LA Times...
...you know who Goldberg is. A total neocon. And the Times runs Mallard Fillmore. Ugh. I always read Doonesbury, La Cucaracha, & Prickly City.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 11:28 AM
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9. I read Tinsley for the same reason some people gawk at traffic accidents.
I take some bizarre pleasure in seeing Tinsley look like an idiot. His "no shades of gray" approach is a riot -- for all the wrong reasons.
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 11:26 AM
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8. Why Do You Even Look At Such Trash?
I stopped even looking at Mallard Fillmore a loooooong time ago.

It's not funny, and its viewpoint is somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun.

It's trash.

Why would anyone waste even one nano-second looking at such trash is beyond me.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 11:29 AM
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10. Our local rag gives it a prominent position on Sundays.
It's hard to miss, and I enjoy laughing at Tinsley.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 12:00 PM
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11. So let me get this straight...
If I'm a Conservative, I give $1 million to my church, and they spend $500,000 on new pews and the rest on hush money because the method the minister uses to excise demons from young beautiful women has caused fourteen unplanned pregnancies and thirty-two cases of VD, I'm a 10,000 times better person than if I'm a Liberal and give $100 to Oxfam, who uses the money to feed people.

Thank you, Mr. Tinsley, for pointing that out.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 12:44 PM
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12. he's quoting, indirectly and directly
a book by Arthur Brooks. I cannot seem to find a good debunking of that book. This site criticizes it some
http://volokh.com/posts/1164012942.shtml
but also seems to be a conservative site, hacking on people who favor income redistribution. His claim that they are less generous and less happy does not seem to account for income differences. All it says then is that "rich people are happier and give more money to charity". To the first, a "duh" seems in order, and to the second a) they have more money to give, and b) they have tax advantages to giving.

I also have to wonder how "charity" is measured. My local Presbyterian pastor makes $70,000 a year. Should I, at $10,000 income donate money to his salary? When the CEO of the United Way got indicted for embezzling (in spite of the fact that he made about $200,000 annually) it was reported that the local director in Madison, Wisconsin made $70,000 a year. Every organization they support seems to have a director making more money than me. I'd rather give directly to the poor, without enriching some middleman. I studied church budgets and, at best, only 10% of their budget went to the needy. Worse yet, IMO, places like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute are considered 'charities' for tax purposes even though all they do is churn out RW propaganda.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 01:08 PM
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13. Are they including offerings and tithing as charity?
I wonder how much of THAT money "trickles down" to the people that need charity.

Sure, they may give more to charity, but does that money actually reach people who are in need?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 01:35 PM
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14. exactly, it pays for a pastor and utlities
and jobs for a secretary and custodian, sometimes a choir director. At most, 10% of it goes to the needy. Occasionally a church will do a drive for the food pantry or to help after a hurricane or flood. Pastors and deacons will visit people in the hospital or after a death and sometimes do counselling. Plus they have programs for kids.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:03 PM
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15. Or in the case of this place...
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 05:04 PM by MilesColtrane
it pays for the the cafe serving Starbucks™ with Wifi access, and the full TV and radio and recording studios, and the four basketball courts, and the fitness center, etc...etc..

click on "tour campus"

http://www.prestonwood.org/cafe.php

What Brand Would Jesus Drink?

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