Lou Dobbs making himself look like a total ASSHOLE on Amy Goodman!!!!!!

[devilgrrl]

He claims illegal immigrants bring disease to America...

A little defensive huh Lou?

[devilgrrl]

1. Yeah, Lou. You supposedly know business, the must mean you're a medical expert as well!

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. I can't stomach Lou

Why in the world would Amy have him on her show?

Who's tomorrow's guest? A minuteman??

[rurallib]

14. Amy asks these folks real questions with followups

It's like a real interview should be.

[devilgrrl]

16. And everytime she holds their feet to the fire they reacted just as Dobbs.

bellicose, defensive, huffy and puffy.

Did anyone ever hear the interview with Aaron Brown? It was un-fucking-real - he was such a rude little bitch...

http://www.democracynow.org/2003/4/4/an_hour_with_cnns_aaron_brown

I hope she interviews that little dweeb Anderson Cooper. That'll be good.

[EFerrari]

31. I want to watch that. He is rude and about an inch deep. n/t

[xchrom]

70. now, now -- don't make fun of his height -- or was that his penis size? nt

[Cleita]

56. A Minuteman would be good. Let Amy expose them for

the racists that they are just like she exposed Lou Dobbs today for having lousy sources for his stories.

[0007]

2. Oh goody, can't wait to hear this! Thanks for the tip. nt

[devilgrrl]

4. Don't forget to talk over everyone Lou. You're so convincing.

I hope no one here ever quotes this stooge again.

He's a joke!

[devilgrrl]

5. He's unbelievable - this is a must view - he's moving the goal posts.....

WOW!

Totally defensive.... talking over Amy when she tries to ask questions... it's insane!

[devilgrrl]

6. You people MUST hear this!!!

:crazy:

[I_Will]

7. He's right...beginning around 1492, if I recall correctly

:sarcasm:

[CountAllVotes]

24. Those were compassionate people giving away blankets

laced with smallpox and other such diseases. They knew the Native peoples of America had no immunity to their disgusting diseases. Act of compassion? MY ASS!!! :mad:

[Lochloosa]

45. ...

:rofl:


:spray:

[graywarrior]

8. He's turned into an evil, nasty, unlikeable Archie Bunker

He probably thinks the reason he was sick for a month was due to an immigrant.

[devilgrrl]

9. Now he's defendng the "Minute Men"

This is mind numbing shit.

[no_hypocrisy]

10. Just another day at work for Lou.

[bananas]

11. This kind of dialog is needed.

Amy has been on Lou's show, I'm glad Lou is on Amy's show.

[devilgrrl]

13. I'm glad he came on and came across as a total git.

What a fucking dipshit.

[devilgrrl]

25. BTW, dialog is the last word I'd use here... that was anything but dialog

you obviously weren't listening.

[EFerrari]

33. It was more like a meal. Amy and Juan exposed his horrible

race baiting.

[countryjake]

64. Just finished watching it...the sputtering arrogance of that ass is amazing...

and I'm so glad that Juan Gonzalez was able to make the point of the pattern of scapegoating any and all immigrants throughout the history of this "melting pot" nation! "What in the world is your point?" Dobbs snarls, "Have you ever once heard me say anything other than I have the greatest respect for illegal immigrants in this country?"

What a lying sack of...(there isn't a word vile enough to use here)!

[EFerrari]

67. He's good at keeping his bigotry respectable.

When Amy kept going down the list of his guests that are associated with hate groups, I couldn't take it in. It was just unbelievable that CNN would air his crap.

[countryjake]

69. I wrote into them right after they aired that CCC map...

of Aztlan, mad as a wet hen...that is the one and only time I have NOT received a polite acknowledgment from CNN that they had read my email. Nothing in it was any different from the zillion other notes I've sent, expressing polite and reasonable outrage, but it is the one which was ignored. Grrrrr!

[NNN0LHI]

12. Lou is Imus' good buddy

Birds of a feather.

Don

[devilgrrl]

72. Now now, Don Imus said he was sorry....

:sarcasm:

Check this shit out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2393275&mesg_id=2393275

[lordsummerisle]

15. Interesting debate

I've been listening to Amy for several years now off and on and that's the first time I've ever heard her raise her voice...

[devilgrrl]

17. Link to the show...

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou

[Mark Twain Girl]

18. This is an interview that must be heard, wow

It's hard to describe -- I made myself late for work this morning because I just stood there at a certain point, staring at my little radio in disbelief while the clock ticked away.

Perhaps it was so stunning/sickening/hilarious/repulsive/compelling because it was obviously so difficult for an infotainment personality to deal with an actual journalist beyond the infotainment world. Dobbs started out amused and superior but the whole thing... devolved. When he started accusing Juan Gonzales of being self-important for not seeing the "humor" in a clip about a Mexican invasion, things really deteriorated. It was one of the most bizarre DN interviews ever. Seriously, if you can, have a listen.

[devilgrrl]

19. I can't stress it enough! Here's the LINK!

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou

[donsu]

20. he will ask a guest a question & as soon as the guest starts speaking

he interrupts them and talks over them and says 'you're not answering my question'

it's embarrassing to watch him do this. I have to channel change.

[moc]

21. I guess he never heard of what we in public health call "The Healthy Immigrant" effect.

Dumb ass.

[madokie]

22. thats a natural for him

I had to turn lou off when I realized that he is a brown skinned hating dude

[Javaman]

23. This is what happens when you have a half-wit masquerading as a dim-wit

who is thinking about running for prez.

[CGowen]

26. I couldn't find it , Democracy Now challanges him on the leprosy numbers.

His show’s reporting on leprosy and immigration. A 2005 report on Lou Dobbs Tonight claimed there had been 7,000 new cases of leprosy in the U.S. over the past three years. In fact, there have been 7,000 cases reported over the past 30 years

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou

[EFerrari]

30. Also on using nutcase sourcing and having guests on that are

identified with hate groups.

Amy and Juan TOTALED him. And he was insulting, kept interrupting and kept trying to use his nitwit debate tactics but he didn't really ruffle them

[LanternWaste]

27. Thanks for the heads-up on this...

Although I don't listen to talk radio, regardless of the stripe-- I clicked on the links provided in the thread and am listening to this particular show right now and I must say, this Amy Goodman person has quite a bit more capital J Journalism in her than most infotainment critters out there in TV land...

Thanks for the heads-up on this.

[blues90]

28. He is a prime example

Of exactly what the mass media has become in this country , a prime example . All the lies and hate and war comes through these very people who enable this sort of admin we have found ourselves with .

This is the message I take away after seeing Dobbs partly exposed .

[RB TexLa]

29. He must be talking

[thesircharles]

32. lou dobbs wins

Although he did talk over them a lot, he also raised important points about the hypocrisy of dn and the so called "independent" media. As Goodman and gonzales were playing gotcha journalism, dobbs ran them over, if you can't see that your not being honest. Based on the content of what they said he made them look foolish. He made great points about the show DN, which is that they are simply idealogues skewing a story to fit their position. They are almost no better than bill o'reilly. However, the fact that they are ideologues isn't a problem, but the fact that amy goodman insists on going on and on about problems with the "mainstream media" is. She's being hypocritical because her journalism is no better, in fact it could be worse since linktv makes its money from liberals, she has far more incentive to be biased than say, ABC news getting money from state farm. I could go on about that, but he also mentioned another liberal problem, which is the fact that liberals tend to be very condescending and believe that as a general rule people are stupid and have no sense. I wasn't a lou dobbs fan before this (i'm sure you won't believe that), but this episode was really entertaining and i might start watching his show, although i still believe building a fence is a waste. Finally, i'd just like to point out from an unbiased point of view, it was goodman and gonzales who looked defensive.

[EFerrari]

34. LOL!

[devilgrrl]

35. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[Cha]

38. It called you

"dishonest"! I take exception to that!

[EFerrari]

40. I wish we could save that one. It has everything!

[Skittles]

59. a textbook example of the results of brainwashing

classic :thumbsup:

[Cha]

36. lou dobbs is a corporatemediawhore

and lies his head off at cnn..I'm sure you'll be very happy.

[EFerrari]

37. And most of his guest are rightwing nutcases just like him. n/t

[Mark Twain Girl]

49. Oooh, look what we found! Can we play with it??! nt

[Skittles]

58. don't touch it, Mark Twain Gal

I'll kick your ass if you do :D

[Skittles]

57. OMG

denial is not a pretty thing :o

[tabasco]

60. Look at who owns the mainstream media, dumbass, then tell me who is more independent.

http://www.freepress.net/issues/ownership

You are living proof that liberals are correct - there are a lot of stupid fuckers out there. Stupid enough to be lied to and lick it up like hungry dogs. Stupid enough to believe the con man who is picking your pocket. Stupid enough to vote for an idiot to be President. Stupid enough to swirl down the toilet and take everybody with you because you lack the character to admit you were wrong. The country is FUCKED because of stupid people like YOU, and it pisses me off.

Get your coward ass out of the basement and down to the recruiters' office, freeper scum.

www.goarmy.com

I did my time in the infantry.

[xchrom]

73. there's no such thing as a conservative who can tell the truth -- now i know why.

they're all :crazy:

[Swamp Rat]

80. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

:rofl:

[Perry Logan]

39. What do you mean "make himself LOOK like"?

[devilgrrl]

41. you first.

:popcorn:

[EFerrari]

42. I actually didn't know just how connected most of the guests

on those segments are to hate groups. He's even more horrible than I thought. :wow:

[KamaAina]

43. As opposed to making himself look like a total asshole on CNN

like he does every night. :P

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

44. And, he does it so effortlessly.

[donheld]

46. Thank you for the Heads-up

I'm watching it now. Lou Dobbs really does come off looking like a fool.

[jasmeel]

47. I've been waiting for this to show up on the greatest page!!!

It was awesome. I was SHOCKED to see him on the show! Dobbs starts out alright but then loses it and says Amy and Juan are pushing an agenda. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?

I was impressed he didn't walk out of the interview altogether. AWESOME!!

[itcfish]

48. If All The Mexicans

left the US and moved back to Mexico who would Lou hate? He would be out of a job. Sad that his wife is a Mexican that has to put up with his dribble.

[NuttyFluffers]

50. ... they bring infected fleas in dusty, empty Fanta bottles and lob them like molotovs

:crazy:

seriously, what does he think airports and seaports are? bastions of sterilization?

:eyes:

[alarimer]

51. I am kind of sorry I deleted it without listening

But I hate Lou Dobbs and I am not interested in anything he has to say. Yesterday I was watching TV at the gym (with the sound off) and Lou Dobbs came on. Under a picture of Chavez, there was the word LOSER. And then below, in the crawl, it called Chavez the "anti-American" Venezuelan President. CNN has no pretense of objectivity. I have no strong opinions of Chavez really, but he is hardly anti-American. Anti-Bush, sure. We have that in common. Anti-US Government and CIA also but not anti-American.

[HughMoran]

52. Lou has jumped the shark for sure

I wonder if CNN is thinking of firing him?

[samsingh]

53. dobbs is just being himself

[symbolman]

54. Once when I was taking my Lou Dobbs out of his velvet, gilded shrine

I accidentally dropped him on a steak knife and thousands of perfectly formed little Lou Dobbs fell out.. They were Everywhere, took me ages to clean the filthy beggers all up... I think he reproduces Asexually, but seems like they're having a party in there, in the Orange, empty shell of my Worship Lou Dobbs..

[dailykoff]

55. Typical CNN spinmeister.

I only watch CNN when I'm forced to, like at airports and barbershops, but every time I do they're humping some racist-fascist talking point about terrorists, Muslims, lone nuts, Kennedy crimes or whatever. Don't know if I've seen Dobbs but from the sound of him this morning I've seen others like him.

[rodeodance]

61. I think he was K. Olbermanns Worst person--or was it Worsest? tonight.

[orleans]

62. he was keith's worst person on tuesday

[countryjake]

63. It's up on YouTube now...

Here's the first part (one of six videos)

Lou Dobbs on Democracy Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noAAzKTzdUU

click on "donovonc" to go their channel and find the others

[EFerrari]

65. Good! Out this racist right wing nutcase for what he is.

Omg, I didn't even know how horrible he was before this interview.

[Catherine Vincent]

66. He's horrible.

Whenever I hear his voice or see his mug on CNN, I change the channel.

[EFerrari]

68. I cannot watch him. But I guess I thought it was just me or something.

But Amy and Juan outed him for repeatedly sourcing his reports via hate groups, getting guests from the same.

It's horrible that he's on the air at all.

[countryjake]

75. CNN just moved his show...he's PRIMETIME getting one of the best slots...

since he's supposedly garnering massive ratings for them. (and I find that really hard to be true...could there actually be that many nationalistic jackbooters enjoying his racist blathering?)

I decided, after reading about the reasons behind his new time slot, that my own tv may be contributing to his "popularity", so haven't done any critical viewing of him for a while, but it should be noted, those dubious "facts" which he spews can regularly be found regurgitating from the mouths of the clueless and misguided who rejoice at this chance to bare their prejudice.

I'm convinced that since his "makeover" or "operation" or whatever the hell it was that he's done to his slimy image, (while he was out pretending to be sick), the man fully intends to seek public office, soon.

[EFerrari]

81. The banality of evil. I remember plenty of people defending this person

right here.

And it's possible that people who don't recognize bigotry get taken in by his airbrushed grandfather act.

He makes my skin crawl and maybe CNN needs some emails about Amy's interview and what she and Juan found on this creep. It's influences like his that pervert our culture.

[countryjake]

74. I watched his "Moneyline" for years,

back when he wasn't smart enough to hide his rabid right-wing capitalist "economy" viewpoint in his back pocket...I believe they brought him back to Moneyline specifically to drum this anti-immigrant crap up, right after the prez took office...that's why they dropped that title and changed it to just "Lou Dobbs Tonight" not long after. He's been with CNN longer than practically any of the rest of those nimrods, at least he was there from the beginning, then disappeared a while and came back with bells on.

I've despised him goin' on almost thirty years, whenever CNN first hit the airwaves.

[Canuckistanian]

71. He's turning into Lewis Prothero

"Disease-ridden degenerates"

[Sultana]

76. Lou is so full of himself

Why does he insist on talking about illegals and immigrants every freaking day.

He thinks he is championing America from bad, bad, people i.e. illegals/immigrants.

[burrowowl]

77. Why was Lou Dobbs a

poplar DU person a few months ago, I said he was a Repuke ass and many thought he was great.

[EFerrari]

82. Because the evil that he does is not obvious to decent people

who give others the benefit of a doubt.

[alcibiades_mystery]

78. Lou Dobbs is a reactionary, but so are most Democrats on these issues

The American working class - which, until the post-War period, was as radical as the working class elsewhere - was essentially bribed for 45 years. The vaunted "higher standard of living" was the fruit of this bribe from the capitalist class. It wasn't a gift. It was a calculated and necessary expense, first, because the US was the seat of consumption, and second, because it was the bulwark against an international worker's uprising. It has become unnecessary now. Why?

1) Cheaper shipping and information goods mean that the location of labor is relatively unimportant with respect to consumption. You don't need to locate a working class with a consuming class. That this leads to a crisis of overproduction is clear enough, but the crisis of overproduction is and always has been the bane of free market economies. Marx was right about that. We didn't escape from the basic tendency of capitalist systems for 45 or 50 years. We merely deferred it, or found temporary counteracting tendencies (credit, production innovations, etc.; don't forget that the much ballyhoo'ed "just in time" production model was designed precisely to prevent this tendency from manifesting itself, as it always does and always will).

2) You no longer have an organized international worker's movement, however much that concept was bastardized and abused by state socialism. As such, you no longer need the bulwark or the bribe.

So the bribe has been rescinded, and now the bribe-takers are crying about it (that's us). But the bribe was very specific. It said: we'll provide you with a higher standard of living so long as you avoid international working class solidarity. No alliances with other workers! None! That was the deal we, the so-called "middle class," struck with the capitalists. It's over. We're back to maximum use of surplus value: outsourcing, cheap labor, fuck your standard of living, the chains of the credit economy, fast collapsing around us. So what does Lou Dobbs' say?

"More bribe! More bribe! No alliances with other workers! No international working class solidarity!"

And this passes as "progressivism" to fools and liars. Because Dobbs apparently takes the side of the workers against the corporations, a magic trick, a feint, a con and a scam. Lou Dobbs, like Pat Buchanan before him, has found a way to make support for the true goals of corporate capitalism (maintenance of working class fragmentation, prevention of a true, free-moving labor market that could demand high wages) appear in the shape of a pro-worker argument. It's a fucking lie, just like every lie the capitalists have used to set worker against worker, divide and conquer, kill solidarity at every turn, be3cause only solidarity wins the day. Now the capitalists get to have it both ways: they move to the cheapest labor possible while having the very labor movement they are crushing rally behind their arguments. There's your fucking hero, Lou Dobbs. Divider of workers, maintainer of working class fragmentation, supposedly sneering at the "elite," while pushing forth the means to maintain and extend elitism. The jokes on you, worker. Ya been took. Again.

Why does it work? Because real working class solidarity requires sacrifice. In our case it means relinquishing the bribe, not getting all nostalgically misty-eyed for it, which is the sentiment that Dobbs plays on.

[EFerrari]

83. It's worse than that. He fronts for the CCC and poses as a reactionary.

Did you see or read the interview? Guest after guest after guest after guest from RW hate groups designated as hate groups by the SLPC. Even I was just aghast. I knew he was bad but I didn't realize just HOW bad.

He kept interrupting Amy to tell her that it was a second of air time and, alternately, that upon finding out his guest's credentials, he agreed they were slime. Over and over and over.

It was unbelievable in the extreme. If I was teaching a course on hatred in American culture, I'd teach that interview first. :wow:

[Contrary1]

79. Well; that shouldn't have been too big a stretch for Lou. n/t

[otohara]

84. Went to Transcript to See How Many Times He Said " the reality is"

I was surprised when it was only 23 times. I've never seen a guest on Democracy Now be so rude and combative.

[EFerrari]

85. My take, too. He's the rudest person I've ever seen interviewed

on the show. Amy and Juan did a great job handling him.