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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:30 AM Original message |
The health insurance companies just love me! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. What a great essay--that deserves a K and an R!!!!! NT |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. Come on, Democratic candidates: |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. If one put nearly $100,000 dollars into a tax-deferred medical fund over 26 years... |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. If she had had a major illness a few years into paying into that medical fund |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. I'm taking $2700.00 worth of meds a WEEK. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. And your situation precludes anyone else from finding that viable how? |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Stop whining and quit buying insurance than if that so brilliant. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Quick to invective. Hmph. Who's the one whining? |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. What the fuck does this mean ? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I'm curious what motivates you to attack what amounts to little more |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Oh... and I do have a tax-deferred medical fund. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. and another car insur option |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. and yet ONE bout with cancer COULD wipe all that money out, completely |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Great post. Thank you. n/t |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. That's total nonsense............ |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Well, first of all; My point was that people put a LOT of money |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. and dialysis costs $23,000/month |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
6. beautiful. Thank you. K&R. n/t |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. That's how single payer works too |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That's exactly my point. |
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Pierogi_Pincher (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. I understand you. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. In single payer health care, EVERYONE does contribute, the difference is... |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. The drawbacks to insurance companies, asside from their milking |
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Summer93 (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
10. Two Thumbs UP |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
11. If we had HSA's earlier you'd have the bulk of that money earning tax differed income |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Again, this rant is not about how much money I've paid vs |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What I said was about how the money was used, if you were to have had an HSA during that time |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Actually, at company number 2, I could have had an HSA |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. HSA's weren't created until the medicare act of 2003. |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Oops, my bad |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Maybe the OP is one of those rare people who also care about others, instead of only him/herself. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. A government run health care system that provides coverage to all can be |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. ¿Que? Opt out = don't pay into. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No, opt out = buy better benefits. If it is funded through taxes on income there isn't an opting |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Which is pretty clearly what John Edwards plan is. |
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ProgressiveFool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. K & R |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. K&R too |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. Mandatory Health Insurance is NOT Universal HealthCare. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Bu Bu Bu BUTT she is the only hope we have |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Yes but Mandatory Insurance will drive prices down down down!!!! |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. LOL, that's what they told us back in the early 1990's |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. This whole issue isn't about building a new, fair health care system... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Awesome. |
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lazyriver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. Wow. You laid it out perfectly. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. 175-200 thousand in medical bills |
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central scrutinizer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. The waste is in the "loss-ratio" |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
32. I regret that I have but one REC ... |
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Audio_Al (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. K & R -- We're seniors with an HMO now. I don't know how younger people cope with the rising costs. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Kicked |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
37. powerful post |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
38. Super great post! K&R |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R for one of the best posts in recent memory |
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minnesota_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. You may be a health ins. co's wet dream, but your argument and accounting are incomplete |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. OK, here's your details: |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. You are correct and that situation is not so unusual, I paid into heath |
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Ewellian (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. and my auto and homeowners insurance companies love me. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
47. This has been a great thread, something to think about... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
53. I guarantee that the insurance company made a whole lot more than that off you |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
54. They don't like me. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-06-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
58. Insurance works on simple actuarial principles, not black magic |
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