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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:22 PM Original message |
The two burglars that Joe Horn murdered were here in the U.S. illegally |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're right. Horn wasn't. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wait...wait...wait... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. May I? Thanks. nt |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. This has |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Keep my spot warm |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. clearly that allows us to treat them like blackwater treats iraqis. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. He didn't shoot them because they were illegal immigrants. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. precisely my point. their immigration status is a red herring |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Ah. So we agree. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. we doth, we doth. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. He shot them because he could |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
95. I think he shot them because he wanted to |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. You're right. Their immigration status does not change the fact |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Murder hasn't occured |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. OK, no murder charges have been filed. However, if you listen |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. I heard the audio too. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. He has not been charged with murder |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Zero beiring on the case... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
76. Agreed; 2 disparate crimes... |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. Doesn't make it wrong, either. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. exactly- they knew the "occupational hazards" |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. "You mess with the bull you get the horns" |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. He would have went to jail |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Warning shots are illegal |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. If he had know that, I'm sure he woulda gut-shot 'em and let them die reeeal slow like. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Your hatred for southerners is pretty transparent |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. LOL. |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is there room on that bench for me |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Get back in the Lounge! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Joe Horn = Murderer |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. yes. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
15. That they were illegal immigrants doesn't exempt them from scumbagism |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. Agreed, catgirl. He's a murderer. nt |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. Oh, great! Now we'll have to pay to return them to Colombia in pine boxes. Don't want each |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. That smells pretty good, dicksteele |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. gotta go to Costco to get the pallet of popcorn. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. They came here to steal what American theives won't steal |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. I like that |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. no matter what their status ... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Of course you are technically correct |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
81. YES, |
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opiate69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. So then... |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Perhaps so, |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. but this was not his home, he was not threatened, and he was on the phone |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. thats ok, that what makes this world a grand place |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Are you aware that he shot them both in the back? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:13 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. You got it wrong Sparky |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. He claims they were on his property |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Yet when he called the police |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Yes but he was on the phone with the cops for a while |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Horn is a cold-blooded murderer |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. You can think what you like |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Even scarier |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Why is it scary for me to be on a Jury |
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DeaconBlues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. But, but, but, according to DUers all illegal immigrants are saintly folk |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You know that is not what DUers are saying. |
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DeaconBlues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Its not? Ever read any of the illegal immigration threads here? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I doubt Columbia gives a shit |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Cuba doesn't want Cubans coming here. The US practically INVITES Cubans here. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Mariel Boatlift in 1980 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. First of all, that was 27 years ago. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I see Mexico as more than happy to let its people come over |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. What Cuba did was a political move. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. But the complicity of the governments is indeed the same n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. It's not just "paperwork" |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Some are, some aren't |
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DeaconBlues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. But we are starting with a group of people whose first act in the country is |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
110. I don't agree with that |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. We should make these illegals wear yellow stars or something |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. What a BS strawman |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
77. you're wrong. According to the Nazis, |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. These laws were written after the fact |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. So Horn checked their status with his Binford 6100 Immigration Meter |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
30. oh well two more Mexicans gone |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. No Mexico just aids and abets them. n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. Immigration status has ZERO to do with whether this was self-defense or not |
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I work for workers (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Point of contention: Murder implies the killings were unlawful. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. No matter. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wooooooo stir the pot! n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
48. You're right |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. Betcha Lou Dobbs will be all over this story! |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Has it been determined if Horn shot one of these men |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Does it matter? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. Makes all the difference |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
87. He shot them both in the back. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. According to Channel 13, he shot one in the back and |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. oh! well, that changes |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. "Does it matter? If either of these men were shot in the back |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I meant their immigration status. |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. This is a disturbing incident; however, a jury would never convict Horn, |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Your post is disgusting! nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. 'he may well have saved some future victim's life' - oh good, preemptive killing. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. That's what I was thinking..... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. It is a bad idea to call a person a murderer |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. What he did was murder, regardless of whether the DA is too chickenshit to prosecute |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. If I name you by your real name |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Sorry forgot about that whole due process thing |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Fine. I'll call him a vigilante, then. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. then you're calling any LEO that shoots a burglar a murderer |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Hey, I'll call anyone who shoots unarmed people in the back a murderer. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #90 |
99. One in the back one in the side |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #84 |
98. The only reason that is acceptable to shoot someone |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
66. It doesn't change the case at all, either way. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
91. Great. More fodder for the zenophobes. n/t |
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douglas9 (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
92. Pasadena police say Horn shot 2 men in the back (Update 12.8.07) |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
103. Horn shot two HUMANS |
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yellingman (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
105. Horn murdered two men providing for their families |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Providing for their families |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
107. So what? nt |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
109. They should have been arrested, put in jail, and deported |
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