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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:10 AM Original message |
Damned Uppity Black Women |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, people should be more honest with their problem (they don't like Obama) |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. What if you don't like either? n/t |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Say why you don't like them? Do you have a problem with the fact of the endorsement? |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. She has every right to endorse |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. That's totally fair, in my view. |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. He's running for President, right? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. I don't particularly like Oprah. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. What you said. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Exactly |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
97. I totally share your opinion about the big O |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
130. EWWWW--I didn't realize she interviewed the Monkey. I knew she did Ahhh-nuld. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
108. I thought it was just me that hated the giveaways? It seems so paternalistic. n/t |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. What about the people |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Again, is it the fact of the endorsement that's the problem? The likely effect of the endorsement? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. It is the likely effect, |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Well my problem is that I really don't like Oprah |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I turned her off 20 years ago |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. i really don't like Obama |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Aren't you the clever lad!! It is comical, I think. A waste of energy, IMO. NT |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. Is it racisim? No? Is it sexism? No? What is it? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. People see it as an unfair advantage. And it is, in lots of ways |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Then why bring celeb endorsements into the campaign vortex? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. In a perfect world money and influence behind a point of view shouldn't matter |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. The problem is solve when we move from Infotainment. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Media ownership regulation and public financing of campaigns could fix a lot |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. In many ways, the power of celebrity worship is tied to the American dream |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Life ain't fair. Look at the asshole in the White House. No way THAT's fair!! nt |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. You don't mean that these same people would be lauding |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
100. And the goperverts |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Is it racisim? No? Is it sexism? No? What is it? --> duh! common sense?!? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
92. It's both. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
109. it's that a lot of people don't like her, more than anything. n/t |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. Oh, I cannot stand Oprah... Pretending to psycho-analyze people and |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. what she said!!!!!! |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Thanks |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
10. I have a problem with the COVERAGE of her endorsement... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. I agree. With all the coverage of Oprah's endorsement, how will |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wow. "If you don't like Oprah you're a racist!!"? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Hardly |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Hardly - it's *you* projecting racism - and calling your fellow DUers racists. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. if it makes you think that... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I repeat: Your OP, and your defense of it, is disgusting. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
75. I'm surprised that you don't "get it". |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. ... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
70. *points and laughs* |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
72. good grief calm down there little feller... |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
131. Hell, I'll call 'em racist and sexist |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I found the premise a bit off-putting, myself. As I said upthread, I don't like Oprah much. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
68. The OP doesn't say that but instead defends Oprah's right |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. That is not what the OP was saying |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. Gazillionaire Black women who buy cars for other people |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
23. Meh, she's anti-union. /nt |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
24. women who buy cars for other people |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'm not sure what the rest of your rant is about |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. in a nutshell |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
30. I dont care which |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
33. Maybe Edwards will file a lawsuit. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
85. Karl Rove, is that you? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
34. Where's Streisand when we need her? Jewish women should... |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
132. Streisand has come out in support of Hillary |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
36. What I think is funny about the whole thing is how influential |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
37. I have no problem with Oprah |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
38. She's leaving it up to the "pundents." nt |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. I feel the same way about plain old women endorsing Hillary Clinton |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. Well her endorsement |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
96. Very well said, full of wisdom n/t |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
41. I think all celebrity endorsements are stupid |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
42. I don't really care if Oprah or Obama are black or whatever. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
43. I haven't seen it here, but I did hear that argument on NPR this morning. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I take that back |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. Hmm. So, did Barbara Streisand endorse Hillary because they're both white?? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #65 |
94. Did you ask her? Just wondering. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. #95 was supposed to go to you; instead, I sent it to myself! Time for a nap... |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. self-delete/dupe/I really DO need a nap |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. Just wanted to point out how ridiculous it would be to say that, and therefore |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
45. Thank you; I just saw that vile poll. Celeb endorsements make no difference to me, but sheesh, they |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
46. Seems like there are a lot of folks who think her endorsement is racially driven. |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
48. Meh, she has as much right to endorse a product as the next vapid overpaid celebrity. nt |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
49. I think you have a point |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
50. More Matcom |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. eh |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
51. Oprah IS powerful and it scares those in power just like Hillary did. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
57. How many people here |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
59. Nice post, Hitler. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. .. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. The o.p., especially the headline, DOES make it racist, despite sarcasm & satire |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. please see #18 |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Why would a personal slap at (my, at least) sincere post "work here too"? n/t |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. Maybe Huckabee or Rudy can get laura Bush to schtump for them...? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Nobody complained when they dragged Bill Clinton out here |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. Thank you |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't think it's about that at all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. But, doesn't that go back to the way we fund our elections more than |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Who is stopping Oprah from exercising her civil rights? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Were there 25 threads on DU the last time Penn voiced an opinion? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. What's going on? |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I think the Hillary crowd is just jealous that Obama got her support |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. Imo, because we don't get enough exercise. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. LOLOL!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #106 |
113. So good to see you, Swampy. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. ¿Todo bien? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. DU appears to be heavily patronized by progressives who support |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. I don't feel sorry for Oprah. I'm sure she can take care of herself! |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. But if Oprah had endorsed Hillary you would be all for it! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Um...think again. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. More power to 'em. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
88. I don't give a flying fig about Oprah (or any other celebrity) endorsing whoever |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I agree to a point |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I'm not impugning the intelligence of celebrities, |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. It's the new version of "Who would you like to have a beer with?". |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. We know where that got us last time |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #88 |
111. I've cared a bit about a celeb endorsement, unless it was someone totally unsavory. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
91. You win at life, again. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. Damned uppity LOUNGE PEOPLE!1 n/t |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
107. I get the point, for sure. But I just don't care for Oprah at all.. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
110. Actually, if you look at her fans and audience, I wouldn't use her to court black voters. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
112. Can someone explain the Oprah thing to me? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Do you want brain damage? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. *cue blast of machine gun fire* |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Lieutenant George: Oh, sir, if we should happen to tread on a mine, what do we do? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Rat-au-van? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Oh, I'm sorry, sir! |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. He missed "sausage" out of his dictionary |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. That is my favorite episode, |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. You think, just because we're actors, we'll sleep with everyone! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. My father, Daddy Ploppy, was known as "Ploppy, the Slopper"! It was from him that I inherited my |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Haven't even seen that |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Really?!? It's the funniest thing since Hieronymus Bosch ate ergot of rye bread! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. A couple of posters decided that if Oprah endorsed Obama |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Thanks |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. We're still suffering from Puritanism and so, the cult of the individual. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
129. As my daughter would say |
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