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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:16 AM
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"Language Doesn't Lie"
On the Sundance Channel, now and repeating at 1:45PM. Documentary based on the writings of a German Jew during the Third Reich detailing how the Nazis subverted language as a means of thought control. While nothing compares to the horror of Hitler's Germany, it is astonishing of the number of parallels between then and Bush's Amerika
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:20 AM
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1. Bush isn't done yet. He may well kill 6 million before it is over.
In terms of the devastation he has heaped upon Iraq for generations.
The long term death toll is going to be astronomical.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:36 AM
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2. I do agree that the horrors of fascist America are coming and quickly
my main point was about the twisting of language--the whole "war is peace; fascism is freedom" thing going on right now.
Dems failing to protect our language over the last 30 years forced us down the path we now tread. Democracy seems to require that lies/spin/framing are confronted.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:15 AM
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3. Yes I agree. The propaganda has been incredibly effective.
And Dems have failed to confront it.
Have failed to call it LIES.
That is what they need to do.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:19 AM
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4. Sounds like somethng I'd enjoy
Thanks for posting!

Language is a tool, sometimes a weapon

and as a weapon is used against the people for control
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:24 AM
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5. Well the sword swings both ways
it can also be used by the people against the powerful.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:37 AM
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6. the powerful are people are they not?
people, regardless of power, are not immune to the effects of language

power does, however, put you in a better position to mass communicate language, as well as shape policy and thought with language.








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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 09:05 AM
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7. The Nazi's had a lot of balls, using language like that
Makes a girl wonder what's wrong with mankind, why was everyone at the time such a bunch of sissies? Why didn't they take a stand against the media whores when that was happening?

At least we know our guys would never act like such douche bags.

Language Doesn't Lie.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 09:19 AM
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8. It is so much more complicated
Try reading what an American was writing in 1938.
In The Tyranny of Words" Stuart Chase expressed concern of what he saw going on with language in Germany as it was happening. He had the insight to compare it to advertising in America which he labelled "literary fraud."
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