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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 06:44 AM
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Looks Like Somebody in Congress has some balls - Dave Obey standing up to the Repukes on the War..
House Democrats Pull Budget Offer
The GOP Is Negotiating In Bad Faith, Obey Says

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 11, 2007; Page A03

"A Democratic deal to give President Bush some war funding in exchange for additional domestic spending appeared to collapse last night after House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey (D-Wis.) accused Republicans of bargaining in bad faith.

Instead, Obey said he will push a huge spending bill that would hew to the president's spending limit by stripping it of all lawmakers' pet projects, as well as most of the Bush administration's top priorities. It would also contain no money for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"Absent a Republican willingness to sit down and work out a reasonable compromise, I think we ought to end the game and go to the president's numbers," Obey said. "I was willing to listen to the argument that we ought to at least add more for Afghanistan, but when the White House refuses to compromise, when the White House continues to stick it in our eye, I say to hell with it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/10/AR2007121001615.html
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 06:46 AM
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1. This is the way for our reps to act. And if he sticks to it I say kick Pelosi's
worthless ass out as Speaker and give the post to this guy.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 06:57 AM
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2. I can't believe I am going to say this but yes do just that
time is wasting plus the Iraqi people have suffered enough already
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 07:19 AM
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4. I with you 100% on this. n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 07:13 AM
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3. I believe we have a special section for threads based on the "balls" metaphor.
"President Bush's success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.

"So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html

Don't let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well--especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.

this 110th Congress has had more roll call votes this year than any
other Congress in history, almost doubling the number under the previous Congress overseen by Boehner
and House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL):
The House last week held its 943rd roll call vote of the year, breaking the previous
record of 942 votes, a mark set in 1978. The vote was on a procedural motion related to a
mortgage foreclosure bill. When the House adjourned on Oct. 4 for the long weekend, the
chamber had reached 948 roll call votes, putting Democrats on pace to easily eclipse 1,000
votes on the House floor in 2007.
Last year, the Republican controlled House held 543 votes, and for historical comparison,
the last time there was a shift in power in Congress, Republicans held 885 roll call votes in
1995. The Senate, which has held 363 votes this year, isn’t on pace to break any
records, but has already surpassed the 2006 Senate mark of 279 votes.
Much of the lack of progress can be traced back to obstructionism by conservatives. Approximately “1 in
6 roll-call votes in the Senate this year have been cloture votes,” noted a JulyMcClatchy report. “If this
pace of blocking legislation continues, this 110th Congress will be on track to roughly triple the previous
record number of cloture votes.”
It’s interesting that Boehner is criticizing the 110th Congress as doing nothing. After all, the House, under
his leadership, met for just 101 days during the second session of the 109th Congress, setting the record
“for the fewest days in session in one year since the end ofWorld War II.”

There are countless investigations going on. Healthcare is on the table. The internet is safe for now. Our wounded vets are no longer lying around in their own urine. The Senate Ethics Committee is back in action. Many 9/11 Commission recommendations are being passed. A bill to increase financial aid for colleges has passed--the single largest increase in college aid since the GI bill. The President's signing statements are being investigated. Legislation to restore habeus corpus has been approved. The Senate Armed Services Committee has passed legislation "that would grant new rights to terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay. The unions have a voice in the government now—as do gays, women, and minorities. The environment has a fighting chance. The House passed the Taxpayer Protection Act, to protect taxpayers against "identity theft, deceptive Web sites and loan sharks." It also makes it "easier for taxpayers to retrieve property lost as a result of a wrongful Internal Revenue Service levy and directs the IRS to notify lower-income people that they qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit." The House approved a bill spending $1.7 billion over five years for cleaner water. There's a new House committee devoted solely to addressing the issue of global warming. And so on.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:18 AM
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5. Right on Obey!
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 08:19 AM by lonestarnot
A flashy pair!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:22 AM
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6. K&R
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:38 AM
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7. Don't need 'balls' to do that. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:10 PM
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11. You would think.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:40 AM
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8. If you read the whole thing
you'll find that not only are some Republicans objecting to the president's stupidity on this, they are willing to be *named* as feeling that way. Are they finally beginning to realize that tying themselves to this man is the best way to lose their party's influence for the next 25 years?
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:36 AM
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9. I agree about Iraq, but cutting off Afghanistan funding may be a mistake
Spending in Afghanistan can be justified much more easily than the continued occupation of Iraq. Also, putting aside the merits and looking only at the politics, I worry that treating the two together would enable the Bushbots to play the 9/11 card. After all, Afghanistan actually did have some connection with 9/11, unlike Iraq.

I applaud Obey's forthrightness and courage, but I think he'd do better to present a bill that defunded Iraq but included money for Afghanistan. We can figure out what we should do about Afghanistan after the withdrawal from Iraq has begun.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 12:57 PM
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10. It may be a mistake
but the chimp has signed statements that allow him to transfer money from anywhere in the defense budget to anywhere he wants it to go. Congress has done nothing to stop him.

Pelosi will have Obey neutered before this is all over with. How does she have so much power? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALMOST ALL COMPLICIT IN THE WAR AND IN TORTURING.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:22 PM
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12. don't worry, harry or nancy will yank his chain and get him back in line. nt
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 02:08 PM
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13. David Obey doesn't take shit from anybody
Including other Dems. He's a real fighter.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:33 PM
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14. Holy SHIT!!! Rec'd n/t
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