Can someone show me where Huckabee has or wants to implement laws requiring

[RB TexLa]

women to submit to their husbands? Or a requirement for attire at the beach?

He has said he favors laws banning gay marriage, and he has said he favors laws banning abortion. I realize some of his personal beliefs make for long discussion threads but the positions he actually wants to implement are the real concern.

[endarkenment]

1. So you are clinging to the slim thread here that he hasn't proposed a law?

Why?

I haven't a clue about thong-bans but his views on women are well documented.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Umm...we don't support Huckabee here. He's a ratfucking Republican.

So if you're trying to drum up a defense of him by encouraging us to examine his record, you aren't going to get it. He's a bigoted, misogynistic, homophobic Christian-Taliban fraud.

[Solon]

3. Personal beliefs influence policy decisions...

Besides the fact that he's a fucking Repuke, just STATING some of these beliefs disqualifies him from the Presidency.

[tkmorris]

4. So if he said blacks were inherently dumber than whites.....

That'd be cool too? I mean, as long as he doesn't propose a law or anything.

RG you have always been the most pro-corporate DU'er around, but this thread really takes the cake. Huckabee is a pig and it is presumed he would govern like a pig governs. Why on earth are you making an effort to defend him?

[RB TexLa]

19. I'm not, I'm saying the things he has said he wants to do are more important

[tkmorris]

5. Deleted dupe

[blondeatlast]

6. HE'LL SUBMIT to his followers--therein lies the concern.

Look, if you don't mind a Deuteronomy/Leviticus spouting RRRW zealot in the WH maybe DU isn't a comfy fit for you.

[RB TexLa]

28. Where did I say I didn't mind him in the white house? Oh, you must have made that lie up yourself.

I mentioned focusing on different things are more important in defeating him.

[Lucinda]

7. As far as I know it was just one of his blanket "women should be submissive" fundie comments

Nothing legislative

[yardwork]

8. Attitudes like that lead directly to the laws he would legislate.

[uppityperson]

9. You want proof he said something before being outraged about it?

How dare you! You, you, you, realist you! :sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

10. Here's an article for you:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2007/12/12/huckabee-the-caveman.html

[blondeatlast]

12. Good find, but I bet the OP won't read it. nt

[RB TexLa]

21. And like I said, things he wants to do.

from the article. One of these I mentioned one I didn't. Both are more important than some personal beliefs he has that gain attention.


Huckabee told the AP he did not believe the Constitution protects women's abortion rights and he opposed any "law that would give workers time off to care for an ailing family member."

[donheld]

11. Why?

Do you want to support this man and are hoping his personal beliefs won't transfer to his legislation?

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Huckabee's SBC connections did result in one law getting passed in Arkansas. That's the

'Convenant Marriage'. It's an optional marriage license here and so far only a small percentage have opted for it (including Mike and his wife).

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov2004/Berkowitz1125.htm

"In mid-November, Governor Huckabee, accompanied by Dennis Rainey of Little Rock, Arkansas-based FamilyLife, a division of Campus Crusade for Christ, spent two days barnstorming about the state seeking converts. The governor said that while he thought the cost of the soiree would be covered by donations, he pointed out that he didn't mind using taxpayer funds to promote the project: "We believe it's an important enough event to use this time and resources for it because, quite frankly, we're spending an enormous amount of money dealing with the consequences of marriages that don't work out."

According to FRC's Tony Perkins, "The standard marriage license allows no-fault divorce for any reason, while covenant marriage requires premarital counseling and longer waiting periods or proof of fault before divorce." In addition, Covenant Marriage allows "divorce only in cases of adultery, imprisonment, abandonment, abuse and after a substantial waiting period," MSNBC recently pointed out.

Arkansas' marriage rate is nearly double that of the US, LifeSiteNews.com recently reported, but it also has one of the country's highest divorce rates, at 6.5 per 1,000 population, compared to a 4.2 per 1,000 national average. "

[kestrel91316]

14. Naivete is such a terrible thing. Anybody who can't see that Huckabee

is a closet theocrat champing at the bit to impose "God's Law" on all of us has got major screws loose.

He's telegraphing all the appropriate codes to his christofascist minions so they know HE'S the guy to vote for to get the job done.

Besides, he's a REPUBLICAN. We don't support Republicans here on DEMOCRATIC Underground.

[Goblinmonger]

15. So if we are worried about Huckabee

which I whole-heartedly agree we should be, why aren't we worried about the Dem candidates sucking up to the right wing and talking about THEIR religion when campaigning for office. I don't want Huckabee's brand of religion in government and I don't want Obama's Kingdom either. Nor the religion of Hillary's new found conservative friends. Nor the woo-woo that is Kusinich.

[kestrel91316]

16. I trust Dems not to impose their religion on me, that's why.

[Virginia Dare]

24. Repubs want and expect their candidates..

to let faith guide their political views, Democrats expect and want the opposite (generally speaking).

[Goblinmonger]

29. So when Obama

says he wants to help build a "Kingdom on Earth" that WASN'T his faith talking to the religious groups, that was him NOT letting his faith guide his political views. One would have to get pretty dizzy from spinning in circles so much to make that make sense.

[Virginia Dare]

34. Obama addresses faith a little too much for my taste..

one of the reasons he's not number one on my list.

[Goblinmonger]

35. Fair enough

I can live with that answer.

Peace

[Goblinmonger]

27. Really

so all those dems that voted for the "Gee Isn't Christianity Special" resolution in the House on Tuesday were doing what, exactly?

[kestrel91316]

33. That, while an utter waste of time when they should be engaged in

more important pursuits, imposes nothing on me.

They do that sort of useless BS every day of the week and I think it's ALL wasting the taxpayers' money by wasting time. They honor Jews one day, and Muslims the next, and Christians the next. They honor cheating businesspeople who belong in jail (my former landlord for one) and they honor good people alike.

If I had any say I'd put a stop to ALL of it and say "Get busy repealing old junk laws and passing better new laws. And bring a brown bag lunch while you're at it."

[TwilightGardener]

17. Here's a question for the OP: Has John McCain drafted legislation

urging President Bush to bomb Iran? NO? Then I guess all that war-mongering talk isn't REALLY representative of his views, right?

[supernova]

18. Let me guess

You probably think it's OK to vote for a pro-life Dem because well, they wouldn't impose their prolife views on us women, but they're basically good Dems otherwise.

Right.

Huckabee is a dangerous person who would be much worse than * when it comes to social issues. If he were to win, I'd think very seriously about living in another country.

[blondeatlast]

20. We absolutely need to watch how the RRR plays to the fundie base now.

Whomever gets the RRR nod will play centrist this cycle even more than in the past. We need to make it as widely known as possible now so that we can hammer it in the GE race.

W played to the RRR base in the primes then to the center in the GE and look where it got us.

[RB TexLa]

25. No, I have voted for an anti-choice Democrat over an anti-choice Republican

And Kathleen Blanco did impose her views while Governor, everyone knew she would. Bobby Jindal would have had he won then as well.

I'm not saying anything good about Huckabee, I'm just saying focusing on what he has said he wants to do is more important.

In a race with an anti-choice Democrat and an anti-choice Republican I'm going to vote for the Democrat. In Louisiana I don't see facing the problem of a pro-choice Republican causing pause in the voting booth, not many of them make it to the ballot.

[blondeatlast]

22. OP, what have you got to lose with Huckabee's announced agenda?

There'a a whole freaking lot of DUers who have almost anything they've gained to lose with what he's stated just so far. Gays, women, maybe even Mormons, agnostics, atheists...

[orleans]

23. here

"In August of 1998, Huckabee was one of 131 signatories to a full page USA Today Ad which declared: “I affirm the statement on the family issued by the 1998 Southern Baptist Convention.” What was in the family statement from the SBC? “A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/11/mike-huckabee-women-should-submit-to-their-husbands/

[RB TexLa]

26. Yet I've talked with three members of the Arkansas legislature and still can't find

where he tried to get it enacted to law.

[orleans]

31. oh, i guess i didn't read your post good--i don't know about him

trying to enact it into law--i just head that he signed onto this letter that i linked you to from crooksnliars

[sinkingfeeling]

42. He didn't attempt to enact that. He did succeed in getting 'convenant marriages' here in Arkansas.

See my prior post and read about the sponsors of that theory.

[RB TexLa]

43. And that would be one of the things we should focus on, like I said

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. The thing IS, do you want to put him in the position where he'd have the power to do those things?

If he chooses to? Would you REALLY trust a RW wacko, nut job fundie in the WH?:scared: I wouldn't! I don't want him anywhere near the presidency!

[TwilightGardener]

32. This post is just bizarre. Why would anyone here support Huckabee?

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Why is it bizarre?

and the OP question wasn't? Why would anyone here be wondering whether or NOT Huckabee is INTENDING to make women subservient to men or require certain beach attire by law? I read the OP as being kinda sarcastic...as in, 'so what if he believes in these things, that doesn't matter as long as he isn't planning on making them law.' The man shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the WH just for holding those beliefs.....fercryingoutloud. We've seen what those freaks do with power. No? I thought the question itself was....curious? Sorry you think my response was bizarre. Maybe I misinterpreted the OP's question, but that's how I read it.:shrug:

[TwilightGardener]

37. No! I meant the OP--I agreed with your comment! Sorry for the confusion.

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. LOL! I'm so sorry! You replied to MY post...I thought you meant my reply was bizarre.

:hug: I'm relieved I'm not the only one who read the OP that way.:)

[TwilightGardener]

39. It's all good in the 'hood!

:toast:

[RB TexLa]

40. You did misinterpret it. I was pointing out what I think is more important

things he says he believes or things he says he wants to do.

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. WHY? It doesn't matter! If he believes those things, mark my word, we would be wearing bloomers at

the beach and women would be home...barefoot and pregnant if he was the prez. Haven't you learned anything in the last 7+ years? We have seen what repukes do with their beliefs. Presidential powers and 1100 signing statements ring a bell?