Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Organ Donation, Or, Sally Satel Makes Me Puke

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:53 PM
Original message
Organ Donation, Or, Sally Satel Makes Me Puke
My attitude on the subject has come a full 180 since receiving my first drivers' license, and yesterday's NY Times magazine essay by Sally Satel is the greatest example I can think of that explains why.

You can call it a gift, and 25 years ago it might have been, but now it's really a demand for potential donors to cough up spare parts for people who are either too self-obsessed or too emotionally immature to perceive how this demand devalues human life in general while trying to prop up their own.

Theoretically, kidneys should be in booming supply. Virtually everyone has two, and healthy individuals can give one away and still lead perfectly normal lives. Yet people aren’t exactly lining up to give. At the beginning of 2005, when I put my name on the list, there were about 60,000 people ahead of me; by the end of that year, only 1 in 9 had received one from a relative, spouse or friend. Today, just under 74,000 people are waiting for kidneys.

I wanted my donor to be completely anonymous so I could avoid the treacherous intimacy of accepting an organ from someone I knew. I would have gladly paid someone to give me a kidney, but exchanging money for an organ is a felony in this country.


Take a strong look at the rationalization going on in the first sentence, and the emotional immaturity of the second paragraph. "But everyone has a spare!" Here's another keeper:

The obvious place to find a donor is your own family, but that was not really an option for me. My parents were not alive and would have been far too old to help me even if they were. I have no siblings and only three cousins; I hadn’t seen two of them since high school; and the third I see maybe once every two or three years. I couldn’t call out of the blue with this news. I could just imagine my relatives tsking into the phone, “You only call when you want something.” Indeed.

Now, here's the killer: the woman who wrote all this is a card-carrying, speech-giving, media-talking member of the American Enterprise Institute, a right-wing think tank that wants to reform, ie, eliminate, welfare. Among so-called compassionate conservatives, alongside "family values," the strategy is to promote the revival of private, often church-related, charities to replace the latter-day government role in helping the needy.

Good time to bring out the old adage: beggars can't be choosers. If you're poor and you need to go to a charitable organization for a hand-out, you've got to go to one whose arbitrary rules for giving apply to you, and you've got to be willing to swallow your pride, if necessary. And of course, you have to demonstrate gratitude.

Funny how Sally Satel aligns herself with a group that's all for forcing people in need to swallow it for the sake of survival, yet she herself is unwilling. Heaven forbid ...

I guess it's just for the little people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:55 PM
Response to Original message
1. Conservatives strike again!
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 01:10 PM by AX10
beat you and defend this BULL!

Sally Satel needs to STFU!

Conservatives have a double standard. "Fuck you at all costs, but when it comes to themselves, please please help me".

It's been this way since the beginning of time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. ????
What does one asshole have to do with organ donation?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
3. It's a well-studied trend in Conservatives...
they are generally the party of "fuck the other guy" until one of them becomes personally affected by some Issue-X, and then they will (individually) suddenly become a big supporter of Issue-X, and yet they will absolutely retain their general policy of "fuck the other guy" with respect to all other issues.

In other words, they have no imagination and no general capacity for empathy. If an issue affects them, they support it. On an issue by issue basis.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. People like this will gladly put a precise value on human life.
What ever the market will bear. An individuals' loved ones should look upon their corpse as a resource to be exploited; harvest the usable organs & auction them off to the highest bidder. And if you are unable or unwilling to put up the cash & make another person suffer so that you may live, then you deserve to die.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. Well, my odds of needing a kidney transplant are higher after last year's surgery.
I lost my right kidney last year to a big tumor (it looked and acted like cancer, but hopefully they're right in thinking it wasn't cancer), so my odds have gone up. Having a kidney taken out for any reason ups the odds of the other one failing in your lifetime and you needing a transplant.

If I had to have one, I wouldn't want it donated by a living donor. This surgery sucks bigtime, and having been through it already, I know that. I couldn't do that to anyone. I wouldn't pay for it, either, figuring it's from a person so strapped for money that they'll undergo a horrible surgery just for the money. Honestly, I'd rather die first. I don't say that lightly, either. I've had the surgery, and it's not worth any money anyone could throw at the donor. Granted, mine was a bit more than most, but still--it's major surgery, and it sucks to recover from.

I'd wait my turn on the list. That's fair. Yes, it probably means years of needles and crap and maybe dying before an organ comes available, but life sucks, you know? She should wait her turn and be happy that she's alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. I have a 42 yr old friend who's been on that list for 8 years now
she will not get a kidney (most likely) since she has polycystic kidney disease, and is a poor candidate.. we all got tested anyway, but no one was a match for her:cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Oh crap. I'm so sorry.
Are they helping with the symptoms and pain and all? That one's painful, if I remember right. I'm so sorry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 03:25 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC