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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:20 PM
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So, I'm listening to Tweety tell us that Giuliani's Tryst-Gate was completely bogus
and that every trip Rudy and Judy made to the Hamptons while their relationship was still secret was charged properly to his mayoral account rather than "buried" in city accounts...according to the records.

Then he's going on about how Rudy lost 10 points in the polls due to this fake scandal, and how unfair it is that he'll never be able to make them back up.

And I'm thinking "But you're not saying he didn't bury the expenses AFTER the affair became public. And you're still saying that he was screwing around on his wife and nobody knew." (To which, no doubt, the wingnuts would respond: "But Clinton, but Clinton..." Yeah, yeah. Whatever.)

While, at the same time, I am wondering whether Tweety is telling the whole story and, if so, how anyone could have gotten it so wrong.

Don't get me wrong. But what the F happened here? :shrug:

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:21 PM
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1. hay he had an affair with his wife, and he's not president yet
so we can forestall his impeachment by not electing him right?......right?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:25 PM
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2. Isn't Twitty a big supporter of Giuliani?
Rudy's nosedive must be killing the Twit.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:26 PM
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3. No,no,no,no,no
If what Tweety is saying now is true then why did Rudy try to justify billing those obscure city agencies by saying it was "common practice" to do so. Something very smelly here.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:36 PM
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7. Here is the situation in a nutshell for the party of "family values":
Guiliani was hitting on his mistress in Gracie Mansion, while his wife was in the next room. As far as the Hamptons go, just how much of the tab was picked up by NYC? I get the distinct impression that Guiliani wasn't coughing up a dime for anything, not his style.

The bottom line is that the guy is a sleaze bag, always has been, always will be. I knew a year ago that his baggage would crush him, and he has nothing but 9-11, and even that is BS. There is no substance to the man, nothing there. All he has done is play up any postive he could find, and toss anyhting that resembled failure on underlings. Snake oil salesman extraordinaire.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:30 PM
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4. If Mo' Booty Rudy has to drop out of the race, Tweety is going jump into the Hudson....
.... his happiness seems to be tied to Ghouliani.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:39 PM
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8. Tweety is going jump into the Hudson....
Promises.., promises
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:43 PM
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wow, that would be a double-win!
Rudy out of the race after being exposed for the lying philandering power-drunk priapic dick-tator wannabe that he is, AND Tweety so soaked and hypothermic from NYC intertidal slime that the spin emanating from his corporatist mouth is drowned-out by chattering teeth: that's enough to give me holiday cheer AND hope for the future...

...so here's a raised glass in hope!

-app
:P :beer: :applause:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:30 PM
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5. Why on EARTH is Tweety saying THAT??? What brought this on -- I thought
it had been proven that these charges were camouflaged.... :shrug:
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:36 PM
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6. just remember,
KO comes on right behind Tweety to keep the record straight, and as of late, Abrams has to.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:43 PM
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9. Tweety for "worst person in the wo-o-o-orld"?
Too bad KO is on vacation.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 11:54 AM
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20. Ohhhhh Man!
Edited on Sun Dec-23-07 11:55 AM by NI4NI
Tweety would be so ticked off by that, he'd be spittin' all over himself more than he normally does:rofl:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:44 PM
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10. "Mayoral" account vs. "City" account -- what's the big difference?
Is the "mayoral" account NOT funded by taxpayers?

Is it okay to conceal from those taxpayers that it's spent on a secret affair?

I agree with you -- I don't see how this erases the whole thing. And the irony to me is how Tweety NEVER gave such a "truth-telling" to crap published about Kerry, Gore, the Clintons, and many many other Democrats.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:53 PM
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12. Well, they're making like it's a big thing on Hardball
and how the New York Times has egg on its face as a result of this, and of course all the wingnut bloggers are rejoicing with glee, because of course they think the false information was fed to the Times by Hillary's minions as yet another Clinton Dirty Trick(tm). The only thing they're not rejoicing about, of course, is how easy it is for Hillary to get the Times to do her bidding. Because of course, all she has to do is snap her fingers and they will jump and Those Horrible Lefty Media will bury poor honest Rudy.

I'm not weeping for Rudy, there are plenty of other reasons not to vote for him without this. But how is it possible that any news outlet ran with this story for days 'n' days 'n' days without checking to see whether it checked out?

What has happened to journalism? I mean, I KNOW what's happening on Fox, but what about the rest???? And yeah, I know this would not be the first time the Gray Lady was caught falling for a fake story. But sheesh.

I just would like to know: is it fake, or is it real?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:56 PM
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13. I saw it too
NY Times was TERRIBLE to Al Gore -- absolutely dishonest and dirty.

It's a real story -- I guess they put into question (saying it's "unlikely") where the funds came from.

Media Matters has been on Tweety like white on rice lately -- keep checking them out! (mediamatters.org)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:11 PM
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15. Yeah, that was MY question, too!
What a load of crap, Tweety!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:48 PM
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11. How many segments has Tweety done on this tonight?
It seems like he's treated this as breaking new in about 4 separate segments throughout his show. Tweety Bird's feathers must really be ruffled.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:02 PM
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14. Here's the article
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:46 PM
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16. So the best denial of the truth of the story is a "not likely"?
Is that good enough?

Sheesh.

I mean, yes, it implies the story is not cut and dried, but at the same time, it hardly implies that the story IS cut and dried in his favor.

And Tweety is all over it like it's now been conclusively proven that it was all a lie.

I should have known.

Note to self: Turn Tweety down when waiting for Keith. Turn Tweety down when waiting for Keith... :banghead:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:24 PM
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18. Right
See, don't look at the fact that he was having the affair, and don't look at the fact that the money was spent, just look at the fact that it wasn't really all that much money, and some of was accounted for in a sensible way.

Oy.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:18 PM
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17. Did walking Nathan's dog and providing police "cab" service get charged to the mayor?
And, another question... who is to say that the auditors didn't correct the billings when they were found out.

Tweety is trying to make everyone believe that the 10 point drop was because of the billing, not because it was taxpayer funded to begin with.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:12 PM
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19. Reference

Chris Matthews


From Demopedia
Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.
Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.
"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.
How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.
How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.
"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
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