Is there a site like DU where commenters aren't allowed

[Jane Austin]

to repeat patently false "information" about fellow Democrats and where thoughtful discussion is encouraged?

I've been addicted to DU since early 2004 but, dang, any post I read about any of our candidates these days quickly devolves into take-no-prisoners warfare.

I not only don't want to read these distortions, I don't want to be associated with the candidates these people claim to support - ever.

So is there a fast-moving, up-to date, intelligent site somewhere I can go when the swarmers are out?

Thanks.

[Marrah_G]

1. Just use the ignore function alot

It's generally the same people.

[NMDemDist2]

8. yup n/t

[Jane Austin]

9. I can put them on ignore, but where can I go for the

political discussion I loved at DU?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

40. methinks you just start one

and ride hard on those assholes who try to tear it down. persistence and perseverance are your best defense/offense.

[uppityperson]

2. That's a good question.

[Maddy McCall]

3. Thicker skin.

It's not as bad this year as it was in 2003. It's relatively milder, indeed.

[Jane Austin]

My skin is fine.

But I crave the good discussions, and would like to find another place to find them.

[Maddy McCall]

20. I guess that was kind of callous of me.

Get it? Callous? ;)

Sorry for the "thicker skin" thing. Seriously though, at least in the primary forum, it's not as bad as it was in 2003. It was truly heinous in 2003.

There is one place called something like political hotwire (something like that) where some DUers have gone. Just looked it up...Here it is: http://www.politicalhotwire.com/ I've never posted there. Righties post there, too, and after my one excursion into a forum for righties and lefties, I learned that I'm better off at DU--because on their worst day, even the vilest Democrat at DU isn't as vile as some at those bipartisan forums.

[MH1]

36. Check out the topic forums.

They aren't as active as GD and GDP but in my experience the discussion is usually on a somewhat higher plane.

[Telly Savalas]

49. It gets pretty vicious in the Cooking Forum though.

Clinton supporters keep making false accusations that Obama uses too much cilantro in his recipes.

[K Gardner]

4. I ordered three bottles of Absinthe from France last night. It might be tolerable

here after they arrive :-)

[madokie]

12. Absinthe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe

[K Gardner]

17. It's legal in the US now. I learned that here on DU last night! See.. this place is good for some

things !! :toast: :toast:

[madokie]

28. Funn thing the first thing one of my friends said to me at our Christmas dinner

well have you ordered any abstinthe yet. I kid you not

[EstimatedProphet]

43. Really?!?!

Link please?

[K Gardner]

51. The first US batch sold out before it even arrived in the store..

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-absinthe_webdec22,1,1604335.story

Its not known when it will make it to the rest of the country. The distributors won't even have any more St George in until next month, and it's said they're already preordered. Other distilleries are rushing to catch up. Lines around the block, people standing in line for hours.. so I just ordered mine from www.absintheonline.com. Remember the prices are in Euros, against our weak dollar. Shipping is about five business days. PM me if you want more info. There is a fantastic forum where you can read up on different types of absinthe, how to drink it, where to order, etc.

http://wormwoodsociety.org/forums/index.php?act=idx

Enjoy !

[RandiFan1290]

53. You already found WS!

I just PM'd you the link but I am glad to see you've already found them :)

Actually, absintheonline.com is exchanged in British Pounds so it is a bit more expensive that the Euro exchange. The shipping was excellent though and the USPS dropped off my order on a Sunday.

Absinthe.de is the German distributer and they exchange in Euros. I placed an order through them on a Wednesday night and my order was at my door on Friday. Germany to Florida in 2 days! That was amazing.

[RandiFan1290]

41. Wait a minute! More info please!

What did you get? Jade Edoward? Roquette 1797? Doubs Mystique?

I am patiently waiting for the next release of Jade PF 1901. That stuff is absolutely amazing!

Here's a glass of my Roquette 1797:



:)

[K Gardner]

50. It looks like we're going to have to try to get an Absinthe Forum

here at DU :-) I ordered one Roquette 1797, one Doubs Mystique and one La Maitresse Rouge. You'll have to let me know which one I should open first ! PM me if you want to so we don't clog up the forum with Absinthe chatter ! Thanks for the pic.. I can't wait !

[HeeBGBz]

55. Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder

I'm really curious. I was told back in the 70's that Absinthe contained opiates. From what I just read, I saw no information on that at all. Let us know whether you like it or not when you get it.

[dysfunctional press]

5. probably not in a free society where people are entitled to their opinions.

:shrug:

[Jane Austin]

15. Really? There's no thoughtful discussion anywhere?

That's awful.

[dysfunctional press]

33. there's thoughtful discussion to be found in a lot of places.

but it sounded like you were wanting a place that censors some people's input. :shrug:

[Blue-Jay]

6. Sounds like a magical place...

If you find it, let me know. This place has been sucking ass for quite some time.

[Swamp Rat]

7. No. DU is the best political messageboard in the solar system, warts and all.

:D



There are a few messageboards that are really great too, but they do not get as much traffic.

[Blue-Jay]

13. Doubtful.

"Traffic" does not equal "intelligent discussion".

[Double T]

10. Politics is war. Put on your armor and forge ahead HERE!!!

And DON'T use that 'ignore' button; ALL voices should be heard, even the voices YOU don't agree with.

[Jane Austin]

23. Voices, yes.

But it's gotten here more like a group of people sitting at a sidewalk cafe having a spirited political discussion, when various others keep driving by shouting out slogans and calling names and honking their horns to the point that the discussion is drowned out by all the noise.

[LanternWaste]

44. That's a rather apt description...

That's a rather apt description of this place as of late.

I think if you have a little patience and wait until after the primaries are over, DU will return to it's earlier standards of thoughtful analysis and opinion.

Until then, try to ignore the drive-by posters.... sure there's a lot of chaff lately, but there's still some seriously good wheat.

[Le Taz Hot]

11. Try the Republicans

They're into groupthink. :evilgrin:

[Jane Austin]

18. I'm not into groupthink, though.

And I've been a liberal Democrat longer than you've probably been alive. :)

I interested in reading the spirited discussions of the DU I got addicted to.

[Le Taz Hot]

35. Well, you might want to re-think

your first sentence. I'm 52.

[Jane Austin]

37. You're fifty-two?

SO young!

[Le Taz Hot]

38. Have I told you lately that I love you?

:loveya: ;-)

[Jane Austin]

48. But I'm too old for you!

:)

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[Blue-Jay]

16. I love your expression of concern.

Back to the woodshed, kid.

[gowexler]

21. I am concerned- aren't you?

What happened to Conyers?? What is wrong with Pelosi? Are people really suggesting that we cannot discuss this?

Conyers lied to everyone. He said he would pursue impeachment just as soon as the Dems took power in 2006.

Why should we believe by electing more Dems, we will actually get anywhere? I suggest the only way the Dems will make progress is by electing NEW DEMOCRATS who follow the Constitution, who believe in the ideals of the party.

[uppityperson]

27. Concern about Dems vs campaigning for 3rd party people.

that is the issue. Of course we need stick it to the Dems.

[Marrah_G]

29. We really do understand your concern

[MrCoffee]

19. great question!

you should email Skinner and ask him why he doesn't welcome free thought and encourage discussion on his board. seriesly.

[LostinVA]

25. hehehe

[Marrah_G]

30. .

:spank:

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[MrCoffee]

31. it's an old rule about not promoting 3rd-party candidates

which cindy definately is, and which gowexler was definately doing, which is why the thread was locked.

[uppityperson]

26. Try here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

[rucky]

22. That's asking alot of the mods. n/t

[mmonk]

32. What are you talking about?

The Obama/Clinton thing concerning Bhutto?

[dysfunctional press]

34. you know- the beauty of the internet is- if you can't find exactly what you like...

you're completely free to start it up yourself.

give it a go- see how that works out for you.

[Perry Logan]

39. Read only threads with no recommendations. No one recommends threads with facts in them.

[LostinVA]

42. Hehehe

[EstimatedProphet]

45. Ain't that the truth!

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. We'll all come together and sing Kumbaya after the primaries are over. DU implodes during the

primary season, but watch the magic of "coming together for the same purpose" after our candidate is elected.

This too shall pass.

I know of no other site like DU. It really is the best Democratic site on the Internets.

If you can't handle the lies posted about our Dems, use the ignore button.:)

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. If the information is "patently false," why not just refute it?

:shrug:

[Liberal_in_LA]

52. 'Smirkingchimp.com' is tougher on the posters.

[Echo In Light]

54. The song remains the same: right-leaning left disagrees with true left, which is deemed "far" left

Even though it's not a matter of being too liberal: genuinely liberal ideas and philosophy can often sound bizarre and weak to the average American. It is an affront to those of the rightist mentality, especially those who are unable to concede that many of their perceptions are indeed just that as routine exposure to rightist ideals works on two levels: diminishing genuine opposition while creating an unreality which instructs such personalities to believe otherwise.

These are usually the ones who support corporatist dems, and not liberal dems. They won't however lend any credence to what I've just outlined, and will instead insist they are merely being "practical," "reasonable," when in reality, if you communicate with them and really listen, you'll often find that they are very much so opposed to the genuine left ... or conversely, aspire to those properties, but foolishly believe that the corporatist dem media persona they've been wooed by likewise represents such qualities.

That's really what much of the disagreements, and hence, fiery political arguments here are rooted in. Pro corporate, right wing elements have worked diligently for the past three decades on every cultural front, and completely taking over the mainline media, while simultaneously castigating the apparatus as being "liberal," was their greatest coup over the public mind. The result is painfully obvious: dems and "liberals" who are shifted to the right without understanding how or why, and who often become enraged when blatant illustrations of this surface i.e. the obediently espoused D.K. "can't win" because "not enough people will vote for him," etc

What the right has done so successfully is to coax their political opposition toward similar aims and mindset, but with enough cosmetic differences as to allow the manipulated to remain feeling as though they're opposing the aims, which in many instances they've been culturally coerced into supporting without calling it by name.