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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:27 PM Original message |
Will Arizona's Immigration Law Work? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. What about those hired by individuals? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Hired = payroll, withholding, social security (employee and employer share), etc. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. so, the easy way around it, would be to... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's how it's done. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. IOW, this law will drive more underground n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. That's already illegal |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Since when has illegal stopped them before? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Nope, the first quarter |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Being a cynic... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Eliminating unemployment and worker's comp? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. It's already done that way--and AZ is a Right to Work state, |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Is a $$$ windfall for the companies |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can't wait for the first resort to get fucked for their hiring practices. |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Mountain Shadows has been closed for about 3 years. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Really? What's there now? Condos, tract houses? |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It was old and run down and needed a complete renovation |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Biltmore, Princess, Camelback Inn... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. A clear violation of the separation of powers |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. With this SCOTUS, though, I wonder if it will stand up to a challenge? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Well, they aren't actually making any "immigration" law here... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. ok |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Heaven forbid. After all, If a supervised piss test each month isn't enough, why bother? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. by the way... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. You hit the nail in the head |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. wondering... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. That is Logan's Runs on the way |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Indeed. It's like they never noticed the Sons of Norway out marching with La Raza! |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. Experts predict employer sanctions will hurt AZ |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Being a Mason was once a job you could raise a family on |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Many of the illegal immigrants will just go to neighboring states |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Don't know if college graduates would like to lay bricks |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Gods of Capitalism forbid that he should have to pay a living wage for the skilled |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I would like to see some data on wage impact. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. AZ rough carpenters made $18 - $22, now $10 - $12. Finish, sheetrock, concrete, |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Immigration does not have an impact in living wages |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Two points; we are talking about illegal immigration (really illegal employment), not immigration. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well, they are the ones to blame for the minimum living wage, don't hey? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. So does Arizona's Right to Work state status, but it's easier to blame it on the migrants. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. Certainly in the spot-light. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
40. Tennessee's law is going into effect Jan ,1st as well. |
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