What's the correct phrase??

[burythehatchet]

Radical Islamic Extremism

Radical Jihadi Extremism

Extreme Islamic radicalism

Has Frank Luntz not media tested these phrases? Every repuke candidate has their own version.

:shrug:

[YOY]

1. Islamic Fundamentalism

Two words and dead on.

Of course it scares our fundies too when we talk like that...too close to home for them.

[bryant69]

4. Yeah but the tricky thing about that phrase is that it implies violence and murder

are "fundamental" to Islam. I should think that a lot of Islamic people would disagree with that characterization.

Bryant
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[YOY]

5. Not at all...

It implies that violence and murder are "fundemental" to "fundementalists". They're all quite violent when incited right as far as I have witnessed.

You can leave out the "Islamic" completely but that rather blurs the picture as fundementalists of the world tend to stick to their own type of fundementalism...

[bryant69]

6. You do understand what fundementalist means, right?

I mean strip aside the rhetoric, it means that someone adhers to the fundamentals of their belief system. Christian "Fundamentalists" and Islamic "Fundamentalists" believe that they are practicing real Christianity and real Islam. But other members of those faiths disagree.

Then again I suppose it depends on your personal belief system; if you believe religion to be generally a negative thing you might well agree with the "fundamentalists" - Islam and Christianity are essentially ugly at the core, and the more one comes to believe in such false systems, the more depraved and evil one is likely to be.

A liberal Christian is in essence a rebel against the core of Christianity, which is all about oppression and bigotry. Does that line up with your way of looking at things? I would have no way of knowing, and if it isn't please don't take it that I was saying it was.

Bryant

[YOY]

9. I do indeed understand...no need to be insinuatory of ignorance

The black and white view of the practice of the "core beliefs" of a religious system as interpreted by usually a small group of authority figures. To the fundamentalist (of any set of beleifs...religious or otherwise) you are either with them or all wrong due to literary interpretation. Most of the violent fundamentalists of the world are not the leaders but the followers who would never question the authority's interpretation of the word.

Fundementalism intones and includes (inevitably) a "literary" and not a "figurative" interpretation of the "word of God." I have yet to see otherwise in any "fundementalist".

I don't think a "liberal" Christian is at all opposed to the "core of Christianity". The "core of Christianity" is the message of Christ and not the fantastic part but the philosophical part: "Love your enemies and do good to those who hurt you." Just as the core of Islam is to create a functional law-abiding society that takes care of itself. It's the literalism and unwillingness to see the common sense of the words in the books above the fantastic and they are hardly "ugly at the core." It's the automatic hierarchy that is created from the systems of belief that lead to their corruption. Man corrupts the systems with a strict, literal, and yes, fundamentalist approach.

Then again I consider myself an open-minded Agnostic.

[TechBear_Seattle]

2. That's an easy one. The correct phrase is

"Right-wing racist fear-mongering." :hi:

[Richard Steele]

3. DingDingDing! nm

[burythehatchet]

12. You know how to cut to the chase, dontcha

:)

[Perry Logan]

7. It's "Radical Islamoliberalgay Fascism."

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

8. Being completely fucking batshit crazy?

Of course, I think this of every religious radical.

Being serious, I think that 'radical' (at least when we're describing religious groups) is most likely the best term (of course, people being decent would be the really radical ideal in this world). Fundamentalist isn't really the best way to put it, as the 'fundaments' that these people hold are generally not in accordance with the religion they proclaim to follow.

[blondeatlast]

10. Radical Religious Fundamentalism is my preference. Lord knows (pardon the pun)

there's enough of it from virtually every major religion to make it accurate.

[Didereaux]

11. There are fucking murderous muslim zealots and fing murderous xtian zealots and ...

murdering fing jewish zealots nad probably a murderous fucking girl scout or two. As for you fucking IDIOTS hell-bent upon insing that you are the protectors of all musseldom, get a fucking clue as to just which group of muslims you are defending.

[DCKit]

13. "Evangelical Muslims"?

Evangelical Muslims - Same wingnut philosophy, unabashed hipocrisy, different angry God.

That'll tweak Hucklenuts.