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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 03:54 AM
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Poll question: My Trollslayers, how hard is it for trolls to make intelligent arguments?
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 04:11 AM by MrScorpio
Is it really that hard for wingers to make an intelligent argument defending their positions without falling into a morass of right wing talking points and outright hateful garbage?

In your vast experience, what do you think?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 03:58 AM
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1. Harder than Chinese trigonometry.
I mean, even Cheney's arteries have to give in some time.

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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:18 AM
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14. nah, his arteries are hi-tech, he is really a CIA bionic experiment...
gone terribly, terribly wrong!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:25 AM
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2. Don't forget, they also resort to ad hominem, and eventually shouting.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:30 AM
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3. That denotes quite a lot of difficulty on their part, doesn't it?
The shouting makes it even harder for them to seem reasonable
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:41 AM
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4. They never intend to be reasonable, and they can fake sanity only for so long.
I think shouting is part of their mating ritual.


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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:44 AM
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5. Like disruptive teens begging for a beatdown
We're obliged to give one
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 05:21 AM
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9. Neo Cowards
I really like your Cowardly College republicans logo!!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:21 AM
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15. What was the name of that monkey?
:toast: Happy New Year Swampie! :hug:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:52 AM
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6. Definitionally speaking, it is impossible.
In my opinion, it is impossible for a troll to make an intelligent argument as making unintelligent arguments, resorting to ad hominem and straw-man fallacies, and generally making an ass of themselves is part of the definition of what a troll is. It's as if you're asking how many bachelors are married; it is a simple contradiction of terms.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:56 AM
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7. Wink-Wink, I know!
C'mon and play along!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:58 AM
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8. I'd say as hard as saying "George W. Bush is a man I admire" with a straight face
:rofl:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 08:59 AM
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12. I saw a classic example the other day.
Amongst other inane arguments, this guy was trying to defend Dana Perino for not knowing what the Cuban missile crisis was. His explanation? She couldn't be blamed for not knowing what the Cuban missile crisis was, because if she didn't know what the Cuban missile crisis was, that meant she must have been educated in the public schools, which are utterly lousy and incapable of giving anyone a good education these days anyway. Therefore, there was no possible way Dana Perino could have received a good education! And why are our public schools so lousy? Because they are all run by...wait for it...LIBERALS!!!!!

Even assuming Dana Perino did attend public schools (which he offered no proof of), even assuming that they ARE all lousy because they are run by liberals, he offered no explanation whatsoever for what made our fine president deliberately CHOOSE this sorry product of our liberally run public schools as an ideal candidate to join his parade of press secretaries.

You really have to hand it to them sometimes, for being able to take the most embarrassing evidence of neocon rightwing incompetence and find a way to blame it on liberals and progressives without even addressing half the issues, employing logical so circular it boggles the mind, and not letting anything like seeking out "facts" (you know, like trying to find out where Dana Perino was actually educated) bother them in the least.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 06:18 AM
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10. How did you know about Aunt Edna?
There was never a bottle of (fortified) wine that was not a close and personal friend
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 08:57 AM
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11. chose the arteries just to keep it interesting. but was tempted to vote Robb etc
just for fun.
however the question is moot since the correct answer is impossible!

and it was Aunt Mary not Aunt Edna

Happy New Year!!!
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:10 AM
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13. the number of clueless, ignorant jackasses is not confined to one political spectrum.
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