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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:09 AM
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Conservative William Kristol becomes NY Times columnist
Source: Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - William Kristol, a prominent conservative pundit and magazine editor, has signed on as a columnist for The New York Times, a publication he has often sharply criticized, the newspaper announced on Saturday.

Kristol, 55, is the editor and co-founder of The Weekly Standard, a Washington political magazine with a strongly conservative viewpoint.

He regularly appears on Fox News, and served as Vice President Dan Quayle's chief of staff during the administration of President George H.W. Bush.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSB11174820071230



This is just plain disgusting. Why on earth would they do this?
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:12 AM
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1. If you can't beat them, join them?
Or maybe not
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:13 AM
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2. The New York Whore Times lives up to it's name again
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:19 AM
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3. He's no conservative..
He is an extremist. A radical right-wing fascist dick-head.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:26 AM
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6. So much for the evil liberal media
I still can't understand why. If they wanted to hire a conservative to round out they're paper, fine. But this asshat? He's a member(and i believe founder) of the PNAC, and a Iraq war architect.

Whats next? Hiring Scooter Libby as an advice columnist?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:21 AM
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4. Leader, PNAC
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:24 AM
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5. .
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:26 AM
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7. He's gonna get a salary. My subscription's gonna help pay for it. I'm cancelling.
I remember the number: 1-800-NY-TIMES. Been a subscriber for 13 years. No more.

I'll call in tomorrow. Everybody's sleeping here now. I want an audience.

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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:57 AM
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9. Wish I had a sub to cancel
They have been hopeless, at least since shrub stole his first election. Couple this with their completely limp regurgitation today of the official 'evil terrists killed Bhutto' story, and I'm with you. Everyone should cancel this shameless 'propaganda slot for sale' organ.
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:27 AM
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22. good for you
speak with your money.

I don't subscribe to anything...information is free on the Internet.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:29 AM
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8. I guess it was either Kristol or Coulter.
The New York (whore) Times editorial page has long been the warren of rapid rightwingers. Not exclusively, of course--there are lefties there, too. But the difference is that the NY(w)T liberal columnists, such as Krugman, are frequently proven right in their warnings, whereas the conservative colmunists the (Whore) Times publishes are wrong again and again and again.

Kristol is a perfect example. He has never been right with a political or geopolitical prediction. On the contrary, he is one of the idiot war-mongers who deluded themselves and the rest of the MSM into morass of Iraq. How much wronger can a pundit be? How much stupider?

So naturally the NY(w)T calls this bozo an 'intellectual' and provides him a pulpit from which to promote his lazy lies. Naturally.

We're lucky it wasn't Man Coulter.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:10 AM
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10. I guess they know their market/audience.
I can't afford that kind of crap. I'm sure their research tells them that, too. The NYT jumped the shark long ago. Like Fox News and now the WSJ, they are all just neo-con newsletters masquerading as MSM news.

Why bother with this crap when you can get the real things we care about like the arts, movie listings, reviews (done better) for free in the NYC edition of The Onion? Plus, The Onion does a much better job with the BS factor.

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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:27 AM
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11. "All The Propaganda That's Fit To Print"
The only saving grace left at the SCREW YORK TIMES is Paul Krugman. The rest of the stenographers that work at that cheery little fascist rag can go to hell...
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:11 AM
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12. Maybe it's only a test.
"Let's see how much our circulation drops when we sign on that asshole Kristol!"
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:33 PM
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34. Maybe its for contrast.
Kristol might make Brooks and Friedman look slightly less imbecil.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:29 AM
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13. WTF!?
They hired WHO????
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 05:45 AM
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14. Another column I won't bother to read
This is a horrible choice. The worst of the worst.
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gleeindc Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:50 AM
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15. Kristol's Occupation
I am not surprised the Times is following the rest of the MSM and giving the right more and more of a voice. As other sites have noted, Mr. Kristol has been rewarded by a paper for which his comments show he has little consideration:
“I think it is an open question whether the Times itself should be prosecuted for this totally gratuitous revealing of an ongoing secret classified program that is part of the war on terror.”
“I think the Justice Department has an obligation to consider prosecution.”
“It’s no accident that The New York Times has to have a special reporter assigned to the conservative beat. They cover it sort of like a foreign country, to explain to the editors and the readers of The New York Times what’s going on in that strange world of conservative America, which is two-fifths of the country.”
“I’m not sure, if you’re against a war in Iraq, that you want The New York Times carrying your cause,” Mr. Kristol said. “Because it’s like, ‘Oh, great! The Upper West Side doesn’t want a war!’”
“Colin Powell is not a New York Times liberal, you know. Colin Powell is for a strong, assertive American foreign policy.”
"Still, the simple truth is that a great democracy like ours deserves a first-rate newspaper of record. And the New York Times isn’t it. <…> Fundamental regime change at the New York Times is not in the cards. Inspections and sanctions won’t work. Even the French can’t help. The Times is irredeemable. The question is whether a new newspaper of record will replace it."
Regime change seems to be something that is not just for Baghdad.
My suggestion to the Times is why not add someone else who is truly on the left. As with the majority of the media, they have allowed the neocons and rightwing to define the playing field, leaving anything to the left of moderate off the boards.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:09 AM
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16. They need another Judith Miller to cheerlead the attack on Iran. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:49 AM
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17. NYT reveals its Homelander propaganda proclivities
Too bad for America. We don't need no more steenkin Homelander propaganda...
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:24 AM
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18. Wrong every time he opens his mouth.
Spawn of Irving Kristol.

NYT: Restoring dignity after Judith Miller
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:37 AM
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19. oh lovely..gotta get the head of the snake on board at NYT..what a freaking joke..has NYT heard of
FUCKING PNAC??????????????????????

why do the others not just quit in revolt?

just quit..

or are they all part of PNAC ??

New World Order..coming to a newstand near you!!

WE ARE SO FUCKED THESE PEOPLE HAVE PERMEATED OUR ENTIRE UNIVERSE!

god i hate this bullshit!

fly
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:46 AM
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20. Being a Bushie means constantly failing upwards.
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 09:47 AM by tom_paine
Bushies have learned one of the successful secrets of dictators and their mouthpieces everywhere. So what if you are wrong? Just pretend you have always been right, and brass it out, repeatingthe same lies and misinformation over and over

Eventually, people will yield in exhaustion and confusion, agreeing that you were right all along.

A Triumph of the Will for Comrade Minimus and his Bushie Comrades. :puke:

What I cannot believe is that after seven long years of this bullshit it still works as well as the day it was newly minted. Kristol has disgraced himself by rpeated bass-ackwardness that would have gotten a non-Bushie Inner Loyalist banned across the board long ago. Hell, most liberals who have spent the last seven years being correct about virtually everything (except for those tiny handful who made it in before the door slammed shut) are already pre-banned across the board.

They are indeed, the Old Grey Whore.

And Nazi/Soviet/Bushie-style propaganda and it's attendant infrastructure keeps marching on, keeps working, and as long as we continue to see the repeated "failing upwards" of odious totalitarian scum like Kristol, even to the supposed "ultra-liberal" :rofl: New York Times, we will know that it continues to work as if the last seven years never happened.

After all, the Old Grey Whore wouldn't DARE refuse Kristol yet ANOTHER giant megaphone.

They wouldn't want to be accused of being liberal, now would they?

:puke:
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:25 AM
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21. hypocrite
criticizes a publication that he then is going to write for.

Why did they give this idiot a platform?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:35 AM
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23. William Kristol a Fascist Worm (nt)
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:05 AM
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24. NYTimes stock will continue to fall
I'm suprised they are still in buisness,.

dunno how long the advertiser revenue will keep the presses oiled
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:07 AM
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25. He starts just in time to write up the favorite son and daughter of the Empire state running for p
Coincidence?

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:27 AM
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26. The lowest of the low. The worst of the worst. This is appalling.
When it comes to being the scum of the Earth, no one takes a backseat to Kristol, and I include Bush, Cheney, Coulter and Limbaugh in that equation.

There aren't words to describe how vile and wretched he is, or to in any way exaggerate the harm he has caused and the deaths he will cause.

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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:33 PM
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27. You're right
Bush's and Cheney's shelf life has already expired - yesterday's news, practically. Coulter and Limbaugh have no audience outside of the nuts. But Kristol lives on and on, with 24/7 exposure to polite company and independent voters. The Times' slot gives him gravitas he doesn't deserve, and he is embedded for life, now. What were those idiots thinking?
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:43 PM
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28. No newspaper should hire someone with this record of unethical journalistic behavior:
In 2005, Kristol caused controversy by praising President George W. Bush's second inaugural address without disclosing his role as a consultant to the writing of the speech. Kristol praised the speech in his role as a regular political contributor during FOX's coverage of the address, as well as in a Weekly Standard article, without disclosing his involvement in the speech either time.<7>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol

This is one case of when he was caught and it received some media attention. Lowlife, morally bankrupt coddled son of wealth, privilege and access that has had he ass pampered his entire life. Fuck him and rest of the arrogant ruling class, they don’t even try to disguise their duplicity anymore.


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:47 PM
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30. Yeah, and don't forget his not even telling his wife he lost $8 million
in casino slot machines! I hope she divorced his sorry butt!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:47 PM
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29. Where's that long list of his wrong predictions about Iraq, etc.?
This guy hasn't been right about anything for 7 years. If this wasn't Nazi America, he'd be in prison.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:04 PM
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32. Here's a list with links from Media Matters. Maybe the Times will next hire Fred Phelps.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200712290001

Scum scum scum scum. The Times is defending the hire: "Times editorial page editor Andy Rosenthal said he doesn't understand 'this weird fear of opposing views.'" . Maybe next they will bring Fred Phelps aboard as an "opposing view."

His opinions and Kristol's have just about the same value, in my opihion.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:04 PM
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31. Why not ROBERT SCHEER?
Why not somebody who's been RIGHT about everything for a change?

Why does he get his LAT column yanked and this ass gets picked up by the NYT?

Oh that "librul media!"
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:04 PM
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33. It should be interesting to read the comments after his Opeds
This piece of news has a nice silver lining to it. DUers will be able to tell Kristol what we think of him right to his face (so to speak). It won't be anything near the lovefest orgies he gets at FOX!

Imagine getting the chance to actually refute his lies with facts, to counter his propaganda with reason, his fake history with reality! Ooooh! I can hardly wait for DUers to take him on! Especially since reading the comments under Oped pieces has become more enlightening than the pieces themselves.


:popcorn:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:38 PM
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35. Billy. THINK FAST!
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:18 PM
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36. Times hires Neocon nutjob...
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