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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:51 AM
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I think Obama is being "PUNKED" by the republicans.
Obama leads in the polls, The MSM pundits praise his glory up and down without providing any supportive track record of political legislation; which news journalist are suppose to provide supporting references....They have their orders now from the corporate republican media....make it all Obama as the miracle glow candidate for the Democrats.....Oh, Boy.......they sure can sell it.


This Obama frenzy, it is all about the republicans wanting to go against him....He will be easy to beat....and he has the financial resources to compete against their true feared candidate, Hillary Clinton.

That's how I see it, just my coffee cup opinion. I like Obama but I hate to be Punked by republicans more.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:52 AM
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1. You Hillary supporters never stop do you?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:59 AM
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7. Sorry, I meant to reply to the Original Poster....
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 12:00 PM by TheDebbieDee
I'm an Edwards supporter and I feel the same way..........It scares the hell out of me that repukes are crossing over to support Sen. Obama.

Is he another Lieberman in the making? Is Sen. Obama another RNC mole? Or maybe he is another neocon tool like Condi Rice!

We'll see........
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:29 PM
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27. The repugs always have a
covert, slimy mission in mind when they do the grossly unexpected. That little voice we all have always tells us so....we just need to listen.

If it's too good to be true....then it probably isn't true.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:29 PM
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45. Obama's no mole.
There's your possibility, which I don't believe, and there's also the possibility that Obama is genuinely the opposite of George W. Bush. While Bush is a divider, an autocrat, and an idiot, Obama is smart, capable of leadership, and a true uniter - who can reach out to both us progressives and the reasonable people on the other side of the aisle (yes, there is such a thing as a reasonable Republican, though the GOP has so many asshats in leadership positions that it's hard to believe.)

The point is that America has had asshats wielding the levers of power for so long that we've forgotten what it's like to have true leadership.

IIRC, I heard on AM760 yesterday that Dennis Kucinich made it known that caucusers in Iowa and elsewhere who support him should select Obama as their second choice if Kucinich fails to get 15% of the caucus and is eliminated.

As I am a Kucinich supporter myself, I take such an endorsement seriously enough to give Obama a second look. I don't agree with everything Obama believes - I don't think he goes far enough with his health care reform, but I do believe he is a truly decent person, which is a rarity in political circles these days.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:59 AM
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8. I support John Edwards, but I am honestly concerned that Republicans will
change party tonight to vote in the Dem caucuses for a candidate they think will be easiest to beat in the General Election.

The GOP has engaged in crossover voting to screw with Democratic Party primaries in the past -- including when the GOP in Georgia had Republicans cross-over to vote against Cynthia McKinney in a Democratic primary and it worked - she lost.

If anything happens tonight that suggests that this was done it will be just another GOP method of stealing an election - and the possibility that it could happen pisses me off.

Whoever wins a fair election wins it - I just want the election to be fair.

:(

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:07 PM
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13. I think so too.
I'll be up all night! The suspense is high!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:53 AM
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2. I think it is Hillary, Wolfson, and Penn who are trying to punk him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:55 AM
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3. They've already smeared him; what would stop them from punking?
Wouldn't surprise me.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:56 AM
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4. Obama is not being punked--and even if he was, they're going
to be sorry. There are two reasons why Obama is our best candidate: One--he is likable--look at Huckabee to see what a long way that goes. Two--he earns respect more than the others. No "Silky Pony/Breck Girl", no "Hildabeast"--Repubs are going to scream about his Muslim ancestors and his ears, but that's not much to tear someone down with, and they won't DARE attack him on race. "Barack the Magic Negro" makes even GOPers a little queasy.
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:56 AM
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5. Carter and the Democrats wanted to run against Reagan.
If the political winds hold up, it may not make any difference.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:57 AM
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6. well..
"This Obama frenzy, it is all about the republicans wanting to go against him....He will be easy to beat....and he has the financial resources to compete against their true feared candidate, Hillary Clinton."

Every republican I know wishes with all their hearts that Hillary wins the primary. They believe that if Hillary wins, it will be a cake walk for the presidency.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:07 PM
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12. Welcome to DU 1awake!
I think that Republicans would be happy if Hillary won, but I also think they'd be happy if Obama won.

The modern Republican Party is the party of racism -- Ronald Reagan announced his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi (where civil rights activists were murdered); GHW Bush ran racist adds against Dukakis; Trent Lott has to apologize every few years for saying something that praises segregation or the Klan; Democrat Harold Ford narrowly lost his 2006 election in a Southern State after the GOP ran racist adds that suggested that he slept around with (horrors!) white women.

There is no doubt that, if Obama wins, the GOP will use every racist trick in the book. Two big, big items that they are pushing right now that will work against Obama in an election is their anti-immigrant position and hatred of Arabs/Muslims. Any issues that activate "anti-white" sentiments in the minds of voters will work against Obama.

If Obama wins the primary I will work my ass off to get him elected and we will just have to fight the racist GOP messages -- the racism will be evident.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:17 PM
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20. that may be,
I just haven't heard anything against Obama (though since I voiced my plans for this election.. I am sorta on the outside now ;) ). The only thing I have heard about Obama said by republicans (some), is their liking of him. Of course this is coming from blue collar repub's.

But just about all of them believe right or wrong, a Hillary primary win is an automatic win for the republicans for the presidency.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:23 PM
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25. I think you have it right -- they think a Hillary win is an automatic win for them.
Most Republicans will openly talk about hating Clinton and they almost universally do hate her.

In regards to Obama - Many Republicans are beyond racism in terms of co-workers and wealthy African Americans (celebrities, CEOs) -- but many still have racist thoughts and feelings but won't say so publicly and GOP strategists will use this fact.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:00 PM
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9. Why Would Republicans Worry About Clinton?
She's won two elections against third-tier candidates. The only time she went up against the Republicans was on HillaryCare - and they kicked her ass. And her negatives are enormous - rational or not.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:33 PM
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31. History rewrite? Actually, the 2k election was no cakewalk
The long-serving United States Senator from New York, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, announced his retirement in November 1998. Several prominent Democratic figures, including Representative Charles Rangel of New York, urged Clinton to run for Moynihan's open seat in the United States Senate election of 2000.<175><176> When she decided to run, Clinton and her husband purchased a home in Chappaqua, New York, north of New York City in September 1999.<177> She became the first First Lady of the United States to be a candidate for elected office. At first, Clinton was expected to face Rudy Giuliani, the Mayor of New York City, as her Republican opponent in the election. However, Giuliani withdrew from the race after being diagnosed with prostate cancer, and Clinton instead faced Rick Lazio, a Republican member of the United States House of Representatives representing New York's 2nd congressional district. Throughout the campaign and during debates, Clinton was accused of carpetbagging by her opponents, as she had never resided in New York nor participated in the state's politics prior to this race. However, there was precedent for her action: New York had elected Robert F. Kennedy senator in 1964 despite similar accusations.<178> Clinton began her campaign by visiting every county in the state, in a "listening tour" of small-group settings.<179> During the campaign, she devoted considerable time in traditionally Republican Upstate New York regions.<180> Clinton vowed to improve the economic situation in those areas, promising to deliver 200,000 jobs to the state over her term. Her plan included specific tax credits to reward job creation and encourage business investment, especially in the high-tech sector. She called for personal tax cuts for college tuition and long-term care.<180>

The contest drew national attention and both candidates were well-funded. Clinton secured a broad base of support, including endorsements from conservation groups<181> and organized labor,<182> but not the New York City police and firefighters' unions.<183><184> By the date of the election, the campaigns of Clinton and Lazio, along with Giuliani's initial effort, had spent a combined $78 million.<180> Clinton won the election on November 7, 2000, with 55 percent of the vote to Lazio's 43 percent.<185> She was sworn in as United States Senator on January 3, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton#Senate_election_of_2000
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:03 PM
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10. Every Republican I know is hoping Clinton is the nom.
Every one. And I'm talking GOP activists and party insiders here. It's not to say that they don't see Obama as having vulnerabilities. He's probably their second choice.

In the end, we can't let the Republicans pick our nominee.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:13 PM
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15. Why would the repugs start 7 years early in attacking
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 PM by liberalnurse
Hillary for President if they were not afraid? Fox media addressed this issue every show 24/7 since she began her run for the Senate. I never heard any of this type of bashing rhetoric campaign by republicans against any other Democrat. Only Hillary Clinton had the power to evoke a lengthy, 7 year bash festival from the republicans.

They invested plenty of money too for this bashing marathon......Who else has endured such abuse....Osama Bin Laden and Saddam have not even garnered that much attention as the republicans have against their most feared candidate, Hillary Clinton.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:19 PM
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22. They dont fear Hillary,
The despise her. In fact, despise doesnt truly justify what they feel.. but it is not fear.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:36 PM
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34. It's irrational loathing and I understand it personally. But it hasn't
stopped a Clinton before and your associates, like mine, will accept even as they rail. No sense objecting to the way the emotions feed each other ... we evolved this way.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:35 PM
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33. You're mistaking irrational hatred for fear. Hillary suffers spill-over from Bill.
Which raises the question, of course, why they hated Bill so much.

I did point out it was irrational, didn't I?

:hippie:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:05 PM
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11. Reminds me of everybody who said Dean would be so easy to beat in '04
"like McGovern" so we better turn to somebody electable like Kerry. Obama can win.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:08 PM
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14. Excellent analysis, liberalnurse. The Republican corporate media loves Obama, that's for sure
Did you hear Squeeky this morning on Morning Joe? He was so high on Obama winning that he almost creamed his jeans right on the show.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:15 PM
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16. Yes I did...............OMG it was obvious!
It helped seal my opinion today.... Then, I felt compelled to share my thoughts with my DU friends.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:17 PM
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19. I bet ClintonNN isn't.
And face it, most pundits like to pump up who they think the winner will be because it makes them look better.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:35 PM
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32. Who is Squeeky?
I have not heard that nickname.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:33 PM
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48. Oops, sorry. I meant to say Tweety, not Squeeky. lol
Chris Matthews is who I was referring to.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 PM
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17. All I can say Lib is
DUH!

But wait. Obama will unite us.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 PM
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18. Agreed...
You know they do that here in Ohio and with great success. It's why we still have Steve LaTourette "representing" us here even though we trounced Blackwell AND Dewine.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:20 PM
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24. Ohio Nursing will support Hillary.
At least the Ohio Nurse Democratic Caucus will... An influential group indeed. Now that we have more Democratic held positions in Ohio now, we could possibly give Steve a pink slip.O8)
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:29 PM
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26. Wait till my neighborhood sees the Hillary '08 yard signs
Our cars will be egged, and our trees TP'd LOL. Steve lived here in Concord Township but now he lives with his Lobbyist/Mistress/now wife in Chagrin Falls. We need HELP Ohio Nurses !!!

Go Hillary
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:31 PM
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28. Here is the link..............
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 12:46 PM by liberalnurse
Tell all your Democratic Nurse friends and student nurses too............

http://www.ohdemnurses.org/mambo/



We love our Ted Strickland too...

I'm next to Ted here.............


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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:18 PM
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21. Let em' try
This time we're ready for these bastids.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:19 PM
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23. ya'll candidate supporters are kind of funny...
I have been reading this same theme - with a different candidate being the targetted one - for the past eight months.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:32 PM
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29. Patterns certainly emerge here over time.
:)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:42 PM
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35. and stay in that emerged pattern form. Wasn't this also a theme in 2004?
:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:52 PM
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40. I do believe it was.
Well then, DU is nothing if not consistent, at least. :)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:34 PM
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46. There is that...
:D
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:33 PM
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30. Eight? Is That All?
Seems like it's been forever.
The Professor
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:42 PM
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36. I was being generous. Indeed I think this was a theme in the 2004
race as well. In which case we can say for the past 4-5 years... :D
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:44 PM
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37. No. You Misunderstand
I honestly FEEL like it's been FOREVER!!!!! I was shocked to find it was only 8 months!

LOL! Happy New Year, salin!
GAC
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:50 PM
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39. I see what you mean...
and indeed it did almost start the second the new congress was sworn in last January. But it does feel like it has been perpetual since before the last election.

Happy New Year to you as well, Professor!
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:48 PM
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38. The media looks to the race to drive up their ratings.
No one tuned in when they were reporting that Hillary was way ahead. They have definitely played a part in changing the polls. But they don't hold all the cards, and the media's attempt to create a fictional Brittney Hillary has failed.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:03 PM
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41. I like your java opine.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:05 PM
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42. Someone told me they were voting for Obama because Kucinich said to.
Knew nothing about the man's history, his policies, or anything. Heard the feel-good rhetoric, and combine that with the endorsement for Kucinich, and voila!

*sigh*
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:05 PM
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43. I do worry when folks like Morning Joe and Tweety push and push him.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:20 PM
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44. You're not the only one.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 01:21 PM by SIMPLYB1980
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:40 PM
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47. I believe he very well knows it and thinks he can out smart em.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:46 PM
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49. My fear is that they actually LIKE him. /nt
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joe_sixpack Donating Member (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:02 PM
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50. We were punked
when we passively bought the MSM's idea that the top three "electable" democratic candidates would be determined not by any votes cast, but by how much money they raised. This idea might be good for ratings on newscasts, but it left some good candidates needlessly out of the running. What's worse is, we are supposed to be the side that deplores the influence of money in politics and elections.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:17 PM
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51. who do you think the super-racist GOP wants to run against?
ask harold ford jr. In the 06 tenn. senatorial election ford was ahead by 2 to 4 points and the RNC..yes that RNC. republican national committee ran an ad that featured a blond white woman and all she said was "harold, call me" and that small ad turned the election and Corker was elected....

So, do not think the gop and then rnc will not use racist tactics against obama if he happens to be the nominee.....
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