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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:26 PM
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Waxman Warming up for 2008
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 03:38 PM by IdesOfOctober
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:42 PM
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1. K & R
Good news
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:35 PM
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2. K&R n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:38 PM
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3. crush the evil bastards
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:58 PM
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9. I almost feel sorry for the GOP nominee.
The flak coming from The Hill this year is going to be troublesome for the GOP.

What date is the GOP convention?

Ides
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 AM
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13. What date? "Too Late to Make a Whit of Difference"
would likely describe any date. The candidates are playing the "we are more bush than bush" cards in their campaign rhetoric - except Huckabee (who was scolded by Romney for criticizing the President's war policies), welding tight the ball and chain between themselves, their party and the bush administration.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:46 PM
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15. Waxman and Conyers will make more than a whit of difference.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:39 PM
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4. K&R. The more hearings, the more damaging and cumulative evidence,...
,...against the war criminals.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:06 PM
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18. Waxman and Conyers have an effective plan to take this on.
It includes a contingency plan in case the White House is not recaptured.

Ides
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:41 PM
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5. Thanks Ides.
If you got any pull, ask Waxman for hearings on behalf of Sibel.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:20 PM
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7. Sibel Edmonds
I have to look at http://www.justacitizen.com">her site.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:57 PM
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8. mmonk: Send Ides a PM...
... with any data. Good contact.

- Dave
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:33 AM
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11. Thanks.
I will.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:05 PM
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10. Has Sibel talked to Waxman's legal staffers?
That would be my initial rec.

Ides
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 AM
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12. Yes.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 AM by mmonk
In fact she was promised hearings while the democrats were in the minority should they win the elections. Afterwards, he has reneged and ignored the situation.

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cm-uRQmfUU
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:52 PM
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14. Do you happen to know which staffers?
Send me a message if you'd rather.

Ides
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 04:38 PM
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25. I'll get back to you on it
probably by pm, so look for it.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:18 PM
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28. That'd be great.
I have a few questions I need to ask before I do anything.

Ides
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:47 PM
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16. send them to me while you're at it.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:47 PM
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17. Have you seen this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x80943

He doesn't want to talk about Sybil Edmonds, or 9/11 or impeachment or...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 04:35 PM
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24. Yes. But since he promised, he owes an explanaton
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 04:36 PM by mmonk
to Sibel and or he needs to be persuaded to grant the hearings. I've faxed him numerous times, called his offices in DC and LA and emailed. The situation has changed because much of the so called "states secrets" information has been used by government lawyers to people who haven't been "cleared" in any way to receive "states secrets", so any explanation that congress won't touch it for this reason is bogus.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 04:43 PM
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26. That video surprised the shit out of me
I had held Waxman in such high esteem before I watched it.

Waxman is a very smart cookie. Why he is looking so frightened now, I'd love to know.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:17 PM
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6. K&R for impeachment.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:16 PM
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19. not to be a wet blanket....but
will anything come out of the hearings? like indictments? impeachment?

all well and good that the info is getting out there - but if there is no follow-up of substance what good is it?

sorry to be a wet blanket about this, but I've had my hopes raised and dashed too many times
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:18 PM
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20. Flipping smaller and medium fish takes time.
Did you see the letter that Waxman sent to Halliburton's CEO in November?

The big fish can feel the fire now.

Ides
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:36 PM
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21. need to flip faster or build a bigger fire... :) n/t
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:38 PM
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22. More wood (info) keeps coming in to Waxman's Woodpile.
If you think you're frustrated, think of the whistleblowers and their families.

Ides
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:54 PM
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23. we have 5 cords of wood left for the winter
I'd be more than happy to donate a cord or two of it... I'll even throw in $30 worth of gas and the matches are free
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:11 PM
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27. That's a short stack, right?
:rofl:

Building a controlled fire of this size is not an easy thing.

Ides
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:33 PM
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29. My Friend Ides!!! Good to see you posting here again! ...
I take it that you have been busy --and for good reason.

I'm anxious to see which way the various Waxman Committee matters turn out. I know that it takes time to investigate and build cases like these.

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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:38 PM
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30. Nice to see you, too!
I get regular updates, and have a little time off right now.

Busy?!? Nah. That's not the word for it.

It takes a lot more time than most can conceive, especially to dot all i's and cross all t's. We're dealing with well-heeled, slippery corporate defense attorneys here.

Ides
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:09 PM
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31. Yes I am familiar with that species! ....
It keeps me up at night wondering if there are details I forgot. And additional time is the one commodity none of us can purchase.

I'd be interested to know if you have any new information on 'State Street' you could share with us.

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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:12 PM
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32. It keeps me up at night too.
I'll start another thread regarding your other question following the debate.

It is great to see you still active and fighting the good fight!

:toast:

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:21 PM
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33. State Street
I'll post about that tomorrow. The celebrations here are not conducive.

Ides
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:48 AM
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34. morning kick for Waxman
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