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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:05 PM
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Fitz to Give Press Conference After Verdict
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 01:06 PM by yodermon
from talkleft at http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/2/21/13335/0191


I just received this email from DOJ spokesman Randall Sanborn:


Mr. Fitzgerald will not be available after a verdict for one-on-one interviews or talk shows. We do anticipate that he will speak to the media after a verdict outside the Courthouse.


My main question which I hope a reporter asks: Is this investigation over? I sure hope the answer is "no."


amen to that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:10 PM
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1. I want a reporter to DARE ASK: How deep are the links of the players to armsdealing and
and terror financing networks that were revealed in BCCI scandal? Doesn't it appear to be more than coincidence that many of the same political and armstrading figures are popping up again?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:15 PM
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2. More indictments?
Please .... the case was laid out that Dick Cheney, Richard Armitage,
Karl Rove, Bob Novak, Ari Fleischer, and George W bush about the
outing of Plame, the rolling up of a CIA front company, and knowledge
that Plame was going to be outed prior to her being so that stopping
now would let "them" get away w/ it.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:21 PM
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3. Well Fitz certainly seemed to focus in on Cheney in his closing.
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 01:22 PM by emulatorloo
From firedoglake live blogging (not a transcript, just a summary):

DONT YOU THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ENTITELD TO ANSWERS. If as a result his wife had a job, she worked at CPD, She gets dragged into newspapers. People want to find out was a law broken when people want to know, who did it. What role did Defendant play. What role did VP play? He {Libby} told you he may have discussed this with VP. Don't you think FBI desesrves straight answers. When you go in taht jury room, you commonsense will tell you hthat he made a gamble. He {Libby} threw sand sin the eyes o fthe FBI. He stole the truth of the judicial system. You return guilty you give truth back.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/20/libby-live-fitzgeralds-rebuttal-two/
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To me it sounds like if he gets a conviction on Libby, he is one step closer to indicting Cheney.

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ON EDIT -- I added the above to clarify
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:30 PM
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4. That seems to be the direction he is heading
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 01:33 PM by Botany
... after all Cheney's own handwriting is on the NY Times piece by Wilson
and both Cheney & bush hired criminal attorneys in the summer of 04
specifically to cover their asses on the Plame case.

I think Rove sang like a bird to avoid prison.

but bush/Cheney and that gang have committed so many crimes
and done so many dirty deeds and it never has seemed to catch
up with them.

Hell, bush did 1 year community service in 1972 in Houston, TX
(for coke ?????) and made money on insider deals and the media
treats him like he is king shit.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:38 PM
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7. Fitz real clear yesterday that all "talking points" were written by Cheney
like "Wife sent him on junket."

I agree on Rove -- he no doubt gave up something.

It seems like the only piece Fitz is missing is Libby saying "The VP told me to leak her identity"

Scooter's grand jury testimony on those coversations with Cheney is so bizarre -- Fitz asks if they discussed leaking Plame's identity, and Libby says, paraphrasing, "We **might** have discussed that, but I don't recall."

Not an outright denial, not an outright "I don't remember." But a "we **might** have, but. . ."

Here's hoping a conviction will shake Scooter's memory lose. Or that Fitz has enough to pursue it anyway.

(Speculating, Do you think maybe Libby told Rove that "The VP wants this done". and Rove told Fitz?)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:52 PM
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11. I think Rove can, has, and will do anything to help Rove.
The man has no back bone and only attacks from behind
or by the use of operatives. So if selling out the V.P. to
save his punk ass is what he thinks he must do Rove would
do it in a heartbeat.

Remember that Rove was fired from H.W.'s staff in 2002 for spreading
dirt through Novak.

Rove was in front of the grand jury 5 times and Fitz still has his sealed
v sealed indictment from last May my guess is that Karl's name is on
some of them.

Also remember that Fitz busted up the mob in N.Y. and started w/ 2 or 3 indictments :popcorn:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:58 PM
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12. Fitz worked the same way w Gov Ryan in Illinois. as I understand it
The underlings got indicted first and he worked his way up to the Governor.

So I am with you, it has been interesting so far, could get REAL Interesting --- :popcorn: and let's have a beer too :toast:

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:07 PM
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15. Remember The Timing...
Rove's last singing session happened as the '06 elections were starting to get rolling. DeLay had been indicted and it was up to Rove to maintain the Repugnican majorities in the House & Senate. His value to this regime was far more important than protecting Libby.

Remember all the speculation at the time that it was Rove who Fitz was gonna get and the impact it would have had on the '06 election was a far greater threat to this regime...Cheney be damned. Surely Rove sealed Scooter's fate in that last appearance to "clear up" things that may end up being not only giving up Scooter to Fitz, but Shooter as well.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:35 PM
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17. Even though Ohio went Blue we had 12% "undervote" in some races
And that seems to be the outer limit of a "fudge factor" which Rove,
E.E.S. & Diebold can "swing votes." Rove just did not judge the size
of the pissed off @ bush factor he was dealing w/.

The level of corruption of this current bunch is staggering and do not
think they will not go down with out a fight. Billions have been made
and God knows how many lives have been lost in "their goal" of power,
profit, and media manipulation. This Libby trial is just a little peak into
its inner world.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:33 PM
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5. When is the verdict due? nt
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:39 PM
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8. When the jury finishes deliberating. (I think they started about 11:30 today) n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 01:54 PM by emulatorloo
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:37 PM
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6. If I recall correctly,
Fitzgerald has said that his investigation is over, in terms of gathering facts and testimony. This should not be misconstrued, however, as meaning that no further charges will be brought against other parties.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:44 PM
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9. From your fingertips to the gods' eyes! eom
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:00 PM
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13. Actually in Oct 05 press conference Fitz didn't say it was over. The bulk of the work was largely
done, but he didn't say the investigation was concluded, even in terms of grand jury. Subsequent to Libby's indictment, Fitz took depositions from Woodward, Armitage, Viveca Novak, Luskin and Rove again testified before grand jury in Spring 2006.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:18 PM
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16. Thank you.
That was what I was referring to, the quote that the bulk of the work was largely done.

And he continues to have the use of a grand jury if necessary.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:50 PM
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10. The link between Cheney and Bush/Rove will be there as well.....
This is when the fire gets too close to Bush, and all the pardons are issued.

I think they realize that 'pulling' Fitzgerald would not be accepted by the public. Therefore, the pardon route is the only road not taken....
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:00 PM
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14. Dunno, maybe Bush won't pardon Libby
First -- Rove is probably ready to throw Cheney under the bus -- Blame Cheney for all the bad things that happened in lead up to war, Poor poor Bush.

Second -- Bush strikes me as unpredicatible and vindictive -- Why should I save Libby, he got caught -- let him take the fall!

Maybe I am too naive.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:39 PM
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18. I'd like the press to ask just one question:
Has Rove been indicted and if not, why?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 02:46 PM
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19. They can ask it but Fitz won't answer.
During his previous pressy he said he doesn't discuss anyone that's wasn't charged. Although asking it would be good to watch his body language.
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