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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:21 PM
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Did somebody say John Edwards is not getting any media attention? Check it out:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:26 PM
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1. You mean he was giving speeches all day long and that's all he said?
He's being punished for calling them out.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:26 PM
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2. you know what sucks? when the only way some candidates can get noticed is if they attack
another.

Perhaps Biden would have gotten more press if he'd attacked others more.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:28 PM
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4. Unfortunate ...
but true...if you don't have the money.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:36 PM
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6. Dean Redux. The only way the media would give anyone any attention in '03-'04 for a little while
was if they were attacking Dean.

The 'debates' during that time were a joke. It was all Dean all the time, and the only way anyone else could talk during the debates is if they were talking about Dean.

it's a amazing how the MSM has a choke hold on the way our democratic elections are mediated to the public.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:36 PM
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7. Dean Redux. The only way the media would give anyone any attention in '03-'04 for a little while
was if they were attacking Dean.

The 'debates' during that time were a joke. It was all Dean all the time, and the only way anyone else could talk during the debates is if they were talking about Dean.

it's a amazing how the MSM has a choke hold on the way our democratic elections are mediated to the public.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:26 PM
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3. almost all are blogs
not exactly mass media
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:17 AM
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11. There will be real articles tomorrow.
All the reporters are on the road, can't exactly produce 500 word articles right now. This is waht they can do.

Tomorrow there will be full articles on the dispute.

Know your media, or they will eachoo'llliiive!
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:30 PM
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5. I see what you are saying -
But all morning I flipped between CNN, MSNBC and Headline News and all I heard was Clinton/Obama talking about the debate. Sorry, I just don't think that's going to change, unless there is a stink bomb in either the Clinton or Obama camp.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:00 AM
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8. I see and read about Edwards all the time
And not just on the media's blogs. He's been the featured guest (for long segments, sometimes the full hour) on Hardball 3 or 4 times. Obama and Hillary have never been.

The day of the Iowa caucuses he was on the front page of my New York Times, and a second lengthy article inside. Two frickin' feature articles in the Times in one day, and the most important day of his campaign. I've read long profiles in the Washington Post and other papers as well.

He's been a guest repeatedly on all the major Sunday morning political shows.

He was the only candidate to be on Olberman after the caucuses.

What is this WHINING all about, day and night, every third thread here? It has no basis in reality. He's gotten way way more coverage than someone who, honestly, has little chance of securing the nomination. He raised less and has little money or organization, he's a distant third in NH, and barely on the map in SC. What more do you want the media to do for a candidate in this position? I think they've propped him up admirably.

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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:11 AM
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9. Let's disassemble this
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 12:26 AM by demobabe
New York Times blog:

"John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton"



Politico:

"Edwards responded sharply to a Clinton aide's criticism today, intensifying a back-and-forth..."



CBS:

"John Edwards’s fingers must be cold, because his gloves just came off. (demobabe note: what does this mean? you put gloves on when your fingers are cold)

Angered by remarks made last night by Clinton spokesman Jay Carson...



NY Daily News: (now this is a twofer on both Edwards and Hillary)

EDWARDS HAMMERS 'NO CONSCIENCE' CLINTONISTAS

KEENE, N.H. – An angry John Edwards charged today that the Clinton campaign “has no conscience”



Fox News: (this is actually a surprise)

Responding to a remark by a Clinton aide...

The dispute came one day after the ABC News/Facebook Presidential debates in which both Edwards and Clinton shared a heated exchange...



MSNBC:

Edwards today jumped on a comment by Clinton campaign spokesman


* * * * * * *

What is interesting about all of this is that sure, there is media attention for Edwards. He's Angry. Sharp! He Hammers and charges!

So negative. The Daily News attacked all involved by calling Hillary's staffers "Clintonistas" (anybody remember Sandanistas?) But if you're writing a news story, these kinds of words are editorializing and don't belong in these articles - except blogs blur the lines between journalism and opinion, and now everything seems to be opinion articles.

Weird is that the FOX News article was perhaps the most 'fair and balanced' of them all. No, I don't like FOX News, but it reminded me that in every organization - even biased ones, there are generally staffers in big organizations that don't share the same bias as the company they work for. This particularly applies on weekends.

MSNBC was pretty fair, too.

But when it comes down to the facts (like Edwards beating Clinton in Iowa), and generally talking about the race, Edwards is still missing.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:24 AM
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13. Well said and accurately "unpacked". Edwards gets attention for being "angry".
That's the meme, and they're sticking with it.

And yes, silence regarding positive things.

Well said.

:toast:
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:15 AM
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10. There's another name in all of those headlines...
He is not the main subject in these articles. Nice try, though.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:22 AM
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12. No policy coverage
Sure, if he jumps on Hillary and plays the angry candidate role they give him some time. BFD. And BTW they don't cover Obama on substance, either, it seems to me. Just his "hope riff".
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