Bitwit1234
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:50 AM
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George W. Bush did win Iowa in 2004 |
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But he was the only president in modern times to win Iowa and go on and win the presidency.
Likewise from 1952 thru 2000 NO PRESIDENT has won the New Hampshire primary and went on to win the presidency...George W. Bush of course "won" in 2004 and was "elected" president.
Just throwing a few TRUE FACTS out there. The truth manages to get strangled so I thought it would be nice to post it once in a while.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:57 AM
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1. oh, come on.... I'm assuming you're not counting incumbents? |
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The sampling number is so low, this is meaningless.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:59 AM
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2. Is there a smilie for scratching your head? |
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:07 AM
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:36 AM
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:05 AM
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3. Uh, Georgie boy was the incumbent in 2004 |
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and I think you'll find that most incumbents that ran for re-election, won their party's primary, even in Iowa and New Hampshire. Like Bill Clinton in 1996 or Ronald Reagan in 1984. Even 1 term Presidents that decided to run again probably won the primaries in both states, like G.H.W. Bush in 1992.
I haven't fact checked it, but that's a guess.
And the sample pool of elections to choose from where this is NOT the case and there was a primary system in place is simply too small to draw any sort of statistical data from.
In other words, insignificant.
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:07 AM
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5. Neither did Poppy Bush or Bill Clinton. - but Clinton after losing NH. went on to elected president |
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:08 AM
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6. You forgot to say "Obama says". |
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:13 AM
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7. We've never elected a non-white President either... |
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:18 AM
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8. I am convinced that the Republicanite establishment handpicked the Bushboy |
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and pushed him through the nominating process.
Back in 1999, I was living in the same large apartment complex in Portland as some wealthy Republican donors, and they told me then that Bushboy was going to be the nominee.
All I knew of him was what Molly Ivins had written, and I knew that she was unimpressed, so I asked, "Is he really the best one? Aren't there other people who are more qualified?"
"Oh no," they assured me. "He's going to be the nominee! Just wait."
This was, I remind you, in 1999.
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:39 AM
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10. umm, wasn't he unopposed in 04? |
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Mon Jan-07-08 03:27 AM
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12. Yeah, so why did the OP make a thread based on it? |
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Mon Jan-07-08 01:50 AM
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11. Not true. Jimmy Carter did in 1976. |
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Carter placed second in Iowa, only to "Uncommitted".
And last I checked, uncommitted wasn't running.
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