If obama keeps doing so well and the nom is given to HRC because of super delegates

[Windy]

those delegates who throw their support to HRC despite the popular opinion of the nation and those they represent should be on the chopping block on their next bit for re-election!

[RedCappedBandit]

1. Pardon my noobishness,

but can somebody please explain to me WTF a super delegate is, and why their votes are more important than mine or anybody elses here on DU?

[JohnnyBoots]

3. I could use a remedial Super Delegate course as well......n/t

[Uncle Sinister]

7. Every dem Gov, plus...

DEm Senators and reps, party chairs, former pres and veeps, plus a few more I can't remember. THATS why the're votes are important.

[Windy]

9. superdelegate info

http://www.mcall.com/news/elections/national/sns-ap-democrats-delegates,0,6458736.story

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/01/05/clinton_machine_shaken.html

[RedCappedBandit]

11. Thank you

:hi:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. It'd be like 2000 all over again.

But I doubt it'll happen.

[CanonRay]

4. If that happens, I'm done with the Party

and then they can do whatever the hell they want.

[NYCGirl]

5. The most superdelegates in 2004? Howard Dean. After Iowa, they all started to

move to Kerry.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. what if it's given to Obama or Edwards because of superdelegates?

?

[Windy]

12. If Obama continues to lead in the electorate, the superdelegates should give their votes accordingly

They should reflect their constituency!!!

[endarkenment]

8. The 'no insurgency clause' of the DNC primary rules

put into place to prevent another McGovern or Jackson from getting nominated by popular vote, will have worked as planned.

Have I ever mentioned that we are screwn?

[book_worm]

10. those 'superdelegates' will ultimately be for the one who can win in Nov

and bring new people into the party. They have their interests at stake. If Hillary demonstrates in the primaries that she can't win and Obama is winning and bringing new people in, do you honestly think that elected officials will make sure and nominate Hillary? they already know she has a problem expanding her base because her negative ratings are so high. No, they will go with whoever demonstrates they can win.

[HeraldSquare212]

14. The majority are elected officials

They'd have a tough time voting for someone their constituents rejected, whether Clinton or anyone else.

[book_worm]

17. of course which is why if Hillary doesn't show she can win they won't stay with her.

[Dems Will Win]

13. They are fickle and some of the 160 for HRC or so will come over to

to Obama later on.

He will win the majority of super-delegates in the end. In the ned it won;t matter, it;s an obvious Obama landslide and Hil's 2 big states MI and FL will NOT have their state delegates counted at all!

So Obama will be nominated on the first ballot and as soon as he goes over the Hillary and Edwards voting ceases and everyone unites behind him, voting for him.

Don't worry about the super-delegates, Hil won't hardly have any in the end, and she only got 160 of 800 or so in the first place!

What a loser she is. Now she's crying like Muskie because she lost.

NOT Presidential!

[dbackjon]

15. Right now the popular opinion of the nation favors HRC

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Right now HRC is tanking.

[dbackjon]

18. why don't we wait until after Feb 5th to worry about this stuff.

Hillary up, hillary down, hillary up, hillary down.

Now it is Obama's turn.


Obama has a TWO delegate lead among regular delegates over HRC and JE. Not a lot of data points.

[onenote]

19. internally inconsistent t premise

If Obama keeps doing so well, HRC won't be able to get the nomination because she won't be getting the superdelegates.

There are slighly fewer than 800 superdelegates. Getting the nomination requires a bit more than 2000 delegates, so its entirely possible to win the nomination outright even if you don't get any of the superdelegates. Admittedly, that is unlikely. But what is likely -- indeed virtually certain -- is that the candidate that is doing best in the primaries is going to be picking up the lion's share of the uncommitted superdelegates. At the time of the Iowa caucus, nearly 70 percent of the superdelegates had not yet committed to a particular candidate. Of the roughly thirty percent that had committed, 160 had come out for HRC, 59 for Obama, and 32 for Edwards. Those commmitments are subject to change.

So, accepting the premise of the OP: that Obama keeps doing so well -- it is exceedingly unlikely (and, indeed, all but certain) that most of the superdelegates will go with Obama.