Sarah Ibarruri
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:28 PM
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If I'm wrong say so, but I think removing Repukes from all levels of govt. is our #1 duty! |
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They've hurt so many, for so long. Our country is hurting so much. We must focus on that! From now on, Repukes OUT of all levels of govt., from the smallest (school boards), to the largest (White House). OUT, REPUKES!!!
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:29 PM
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1. So you want one-party government? Just like they did? |
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 PM
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3. Hell no. I merely said Repukes, not other parties. They've nearly destroyed our country. |
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And they infiltrated every level of govt. like mafiosos from the ground up. I, for one, don't intend to let them do that again.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:17 AM
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13. And what other party would you replace them with? |
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Sorry, but the reality of the matter is that approximately half of our population falls on the moderate to conservative scale in politics. You remove the party that represents them then so other, possibly worse, party takes their place, perhaps something like the Libertarian or Constitutional party.
Or even worse, these people swarm over to the Democrats and remake it in their own conservative image. Then all of the liberals and progressives will go somewhere else, like the Greens.
It is politically impossible to represent all of the divergent points of view in politics in one party, at least in a nominally free country like ours. All that you would be doing is simply switching names around, not eliminating the ideologies that drive them.
So for better or worse, we're stuck with this system for now. What I would love to see is actually more parties get into the mix, Greens, Libertarians, etc. More representation of views, not less.
Oh, and it just isn't the 'Pugs who've nearly destroyed our country, the Dems helped out plenty on that score. Nobody's hands are clean in our two party/same corporate master system of government.
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Sarah Ibarruri
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:27 PM
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26. You mean fill positions with? |
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It's not for me to fill positions, but there are independents and the Green Party for example. Why do you so desperately want to hang on to a group that every time they're in the White House, they do tremendous damage to the country, enrich the rich, and impoverish the rest of the nation?
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:10 AM
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:30 PM
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2. I got nothing against a purge |
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these clowns have screwed up enough stuff... it should be an OSHA standard that no republicans be allowed to handle anything over... well.... anything
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 PM
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The Republicans have shown that they do not have the interests of the American people in mind when they govern. I'm all for giving the Democrats a chance, and yes, that IS Democracy.
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 PM
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5. Agreed. But the way to do it is to actually follow a simple plan |
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Go through every Governmental and State Office and perform Audits to see if the current Employees are actually qualified to hold their positions.
If the number is ever released I would bet that at least 75 % of all employees hired since * first term are not qualified for their position. If they are qualifed then they stay, if not bye, bye.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:56 AM
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20. That will be nearly impossible ... |
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The public did not pay attention to the national defense act of 2004. Under the NDA, government positions were reclassified, higher pay-scale (bands) positions created were shifted to new entrants, and the new jobs include permanence that 'protect' the 'new' employees.
In addition, many heads of federal organizations rewriting regulations are hacks from the private industry.
The 'government' is smaller, in the sense of the number of civil servants left, but 'government' is largely run by contractors.
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:34 PM
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6. I just dont understand how any working class American could ever vote for |
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a Republican. Especially after what we have had to go through over the last 7 years.....
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:48 PM
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7. I totally agree. I know some Republicans. In fact, I have one in the family..... |
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He's 31, thinks he'll be 31 forever, and thinks he's young because he's a better person and deserves to be young LOL! He's doing financially well because he was put through school by his mummy and daddy. :-) He feels a extraodinary sense of entitlement.
For him, being Republican is a bit like belonging to a fraternity. I guess he got that from college Repukes. He and his Repuke buddies get together a lot, laugh uproriously while drinking, limit their discussion to only the most shallow topics, grunt a lot, say that if someone is not young and strong, it's their own fault. They also claim that the unfortunate brought that bad fortune on themselves. They believe themselves to be of higher quality than others. I'm not sure how that works, but they work on convincing themselves of that. In truth, they're no smarter than a box of rocks. For a while I had a little blog going in which a lot of them participated, or, shall I say, trolled. Consistently they showed they had no clue what they were talking about and resorted (out of need, since they lacked the logic and intelligence to discuss anything in any detail), to epithets and snippets they'd heard O'Reilly and Limbaugh use. Eventually, they got bored and left like a plague. Thank goodness!
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:56 PM
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8. All it takes is MOST eligible voters ACTUALLY voting. |
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They don't. If they did, there wouldn't be a single Rethug in office anywhere. Voter registration and turnout are the answers.
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Tue Jan-08-08 09:58 PM
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9. Absolutely. That's why they don't want voting done on weekends.... |
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.... and why they make voting a living hell for the poorest.
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Tue Jan-08-08 10:15 PM
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As good of an idea as it sounds on the surface, it's a very bad one. The repukes have imploded because of their attempts to squeeze the dems out. Look at the justice dept. Repukes have politicized it to their heart's content. They were hiring by political affiliation rather than qualifications.
It's a very bad idea, IMO.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:17 AM
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11. We're assuming that only Repukes or Dems are available to occupy positions..... |
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There are independents, and there is the Green Party. Every time the Repukes take over they hurt the least powerful, the most helpless, and they destroy our economy and human lives. I don't think we need to play nice with the devil anymore. It's what gets us in trouble every time. We play nice with them and soon they've got a gun to he heads of our most helpless citizens. I don't buy the need to fall into the trap for the millionth time again.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:06 AM
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even if they were legitimately elected in a fair election, you are recommending that we toss out the rule of law and purge american citizens for their political beliefs. I suspect that this was the thinking in Russia in the 1920s, and Germany in the 1930s. JMO
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:09 AM
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16. Are you suggesting that Republicans follow the "rule of law"? |
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If you believe in the "rule of law" then I am surprised you would not wish to rid this country of the law breakers that have infested America in the guise of the Republican Party..
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:00 AM
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21. Its called the Constitution |
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If they are not following the rule of law, then try them and convict them. Even during WWII, the Nazi party was not illegal in the country. During the Cold War, the Communist Party of the United States was legal. If followed your recommendation places the Democratic Party at the same level of the Republican Party. If the Democratic Party stands for the Constitution then we must follow it. To do otherwise makes us not better than them.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:31 PM
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30. How about if they make their own laws to make the formerly illegal, legal? |
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And how about if they're present at every level of government, but they're all scumbucket criminals? How about then? I say we get rid of them, period.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:54 PM
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32. Again refer to the Constitution of the United States |
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Those that have committed crimes should be prosecuted per the law. If you have proof that all Republicans in all levels of government have committed crimes, then come forward with that evidence and press charges.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:15 PM
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33. And when did I say break laws? I don't recall saying that.... |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:16 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
... although I will say this, civil unrest is a wonderful thing and civil disobedience of the Ghandi type, broke laws. You don't like that?
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:43 PM
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34. Civil disobedience is one thing, |
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However you do not appear to be proposing civil disobedience. Since using the rule of law to remove these people from posts of responsibility is not what you are advocating, I would surmise that you propose violence to "get rid of them".
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:30 PM
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:20 AM
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14. It would be adequate to marginalize them. |
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For years, we have been trapped in a situation where the public favors Democratic positions by large majorities on every issue but Republicans run everything, doing the exact opposite of what the public wants done. 75% of the public (including me) believes that the last seven years of Republican misrule have led the country down the "wrong track". When will the 75% be given a voice in their own government? It isn't necessary to completely eliminate Republicans, but it is necessary to restore a balance to our governance so that the people's wishes, when expressed by 70-80% majorities, be accommodated rather than ignored. This requires marginalizing this small minority instead of putting them solely in charge.
(/my 2 cents)
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:03 AM
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15. What we need is to get rid of all the party hacks that have been put in |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:03 AM by Hardhead
There's nothing wrong with someone being a republican, but there are a lot of outright hacks who were put into strategic places where they could do the most harm, like the DOJ, for example. All the hacks must be rooted out and replaced.
That task alone will take a lot of work.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:09 AM
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Without the Repbulican party playing the role of "bad guy" the Democratic party would quickly tear itself into small faction. DU should be sufficient evidence of this.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:11 AM
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18. 2 years ago I would have agreed. |
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but we need to clean our own house first. The betrayal is deep. The very people who have taken an oath to remove these criminals are now protecting them.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:23 AM
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19. Hey, why don't you fire the republicans at the post office, as well |
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And don't forget the police officers.
And firefighters.
And social workers.
And teachers.
I'm sure you can do something to get the states to fire those folks.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:47 AM
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25. How is this comparable? |
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Post office employees don't get to make rules governing people's lives.
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Sarah Ibarruri
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:29 PM
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28. These are elected officials that make laws? Since when?? Besides..... |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 07:29 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
I never said, "Remove government." Repugnicans say that. I don't. I merely said, "Remove Repugnicans."
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:09 AM
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Im not in favor of single party rule, Democrat or Republican.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:28 PM
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27. Why do you assume it *must* only be one of two parties only? nt |
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:45 AM
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24. Better to keep them in place but make them powerless. Provide a "fool" zone for them. |
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A nice, small, useless Republican party, to siphon off all the idiots. Otherwise they might get into other parties, which would be bad.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:32 PM
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31. Who can argue with that? and just think what a blast it is going to be |
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with Al Franken in the senate. Those people are in for a treat.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:51 PM
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35. Wow, and I thought Bush had trouble following your Constitution. |
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