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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:19 PM
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Larry Johnson, "How could the polls be so wrong?" Great, short read:
I don't know about you, but I am thoroughly pissed off at the lame, unprofessional conduct of the various networks--MSNBC in particular. They knew that the polls had at least 17% undecided. Rather than simply report that there were a significant number of undecided voters and any projections were not reliable, they danced around like crack addicts celebrating the demise of the Clintons. Hillary is too wimpy. Hillary is too stern. Hillary is too manipulative. Hillary is not manipulative enough.

Special offenders include Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, and Howard Fineman. They were so busy dancing on the Clinton grave that they did not have the decency to do some objective analysis. Hell, they tried to deceive the American people. So much for the death of Hillary's campaign.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2008/jan/08/how_could_the_polls_be_so_wrong
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:21 PM
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1. Was that guy speaking out about this over the weekend?
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:22 PM
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2. 17% undecided!! hmm, I missed that somehow. helpful to know.. thanx. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:26 PM
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3. andrea mitchell was shameful on Lehrer news hour--it was like she was "put out
' having to cover the Clinton campaign when all the glory way over with obams
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:33 PM
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4. It's media just fucking with us. Pay no attention to polls.
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:36 PM
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5. NH Voter here
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I decided I would vote for Clinton over Edwards last night because I am so sick of all the fucking sexism. I guess it was more of a statement vote; I really was not a Clinton supporter.

She's just been projected the winner. Either the pollsters were really wrong or other people had the same bad taste in their mouths and voted accordingly.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:40 PM
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6. What fucking sexism?
I am so fucking sick of hearing that. How the fuck can women be sexist?

HOW?
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:24 PM
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7. What "women"
did I mention?

I'm talking about the subtle and not-so-subtle non-stop sexist treatment of Clinton (oops, I mean, Hillary) by the media. She's not feminine enough. She's too loud. She's manipulative. She cried! That proves she's weak and too feminine to be president. She is continually held to a higher, albeit constantly moving and changing, standard than the male candidates. Here's a good DU link that addresses some of the things I was thinking when I made the decision to vote for her. (I read it after I voted.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3861664

Oh, but since you brought it up, of course women can be sexist! My own mother - who is only 61 - thinks governing is best done by men and wouldn't see a female doctor unless every last male doctor had dropped off the face of the earth. Sexism is so completely acceptable and infused into our culture that many people - apparently yourself included - can't see it when it is staring them straight in the eye.

I'm fine with Barack (oops, I mean Obama!) being the nominee and he'll probably be a better GE candidate. But I'm glad I voted for Clinton.
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