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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:02 AM
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Holy crap...just checked the Asia/European markets. Gold and Silver going through the ceiling.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:05 AM by BeHereNow
Gold is over 888.00
Silver at 16.00

The dollar is now worth .67 to the euro.

Hang on folks, the shit is about to hit the fan.

Also just read that gas is expected to hit 3.50 by springtime.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumers will pay record prices for
gasoline this spring, with national monthly pump costs peaking near
$3.50 per gallon when the busy driving season begins,
the government's top energy forecasting agency said Tuesday."

Let the games begin.

BHN

On edit, if you're still out there, Junker,
this one's dedicated to you, because yes, I remember
how they ridiculed you about this.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:19 AM
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1. "...peaking near $3.50"...
..generally translates to "around $3.70 on the West Coast." :-(

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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:29 AM
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2. I predict we'll see $5.00 a gallon within 2 years. n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:29 AM by pepperbear
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:41 AM
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3. We will see how long American infrastructure, built around the car, lasts before collapsing.
Before long, the old infrastructure will have to be junked in favor of mass transit and bullet trains instead of interstates and gridlocked roads.
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Truthy Nessy Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:32 AM
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4. Maybe we'll turn to the air car?
I remember watching the documentary "Who killed the Electric Car?" and being very frustrated that government and big corporations like the oil companies killed the car just so that the last drop of oil profits could be made. I recommend it be watched by all.

Saw this the other day.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Air_car_runs_on_compressed_air_0104.html
Excerpt:
BBC News is reporting that a French company has developed a pollution-free car which runs on compressed air. India's Tata Motors has the car under production and it may be on sale in Europe and India by the end of the year.

The air car, also known as the Mini-CAT or City Cat, can be refueled in minutes from an air compressor at specially equipped gas stations and can go 200 km on a 1.5 euro fill-up -- roughly 125 miles for $3. The top speed will be almost 70 mph and the cost of the vehicle as low as $7000."

I'll be looking into this for myself.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:12 AM
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5. Kick.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:22 AM
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6. Those prices are actually stable. It's the dollar that's falling. Takes more bucks
to buy the same things.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:09 AM
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7. The declining Dollar is the elephant in the room
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:11 AM by Jeroen
I simply cannot understand that it doesn’t play a more significant role in this election.
It has the potential to ruin millions of lives in the US and around the world.

Bernanke keeps printing more Dollars and everybody seems to be fine with that. If the banks need more money they simply create more.
But if we can no longer afford our mortgages they take our house and everything else we own.

Bernanke and his neoconservative banker friends know what is coming. In the end they will own us.
It is the biggest scam in history.
Or am I naive?

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:21 AM
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8. "It is the biggest scam in history"
And a high level overview of how it all works is revealed in the documentary "Money as Debt."

Here is what Elizabeth Kucinich (wife of Presidential Canadidate Dennis Kucinich) says about the film.


"I have worked for a long time looking into monetary reform and after 10 years, finally someone has produced a DVD entitled "Money as Debt". It is a fabulous fun yet powerful introduction to the issue of monetary reform. It's the best over view I have seen so far; the best by far. ESSENTIAL! Everyone should watch it!

The topic of DebtMoney is THE issue of our times. It forms the basis to every nation's areas of core material and spiritual concerns such as economic development, employment and environmental sustainability.

If only government officials, civil society organizations, environmental groups, unions and well meaning international development strategists trying to eradicate poverty really understood this topic... the world would be a much better place.

www.moneyasdebt.net (click on "Reviews")


You can watch the video on Google video. Just go to http://video.google.com and type in "Money as Debt" in the search bar and click on the first link in the results.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:00 PM
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11. This is well worth watching.....I had NO idea this is how the banking
industry works.....explains so much! A MUST see. K&R to the OP.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:18 PM
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15. "I had NO idea this is how the banking industry works"
And, no doubt, they'd much rather you didn't find out just how the debt based money system does work.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:09 PM
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12. Thank you, I found it and will be watching n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 PM
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13. You're welcome Jeroen.
I like how the documentary's producer, Paul Grignon, sums up the reasons why he felt compelled to make this documentary film:

Money created as interest-bearing bank credit is a magic trick, a fraud - now 3 centuries old; one that very few people have seen through despite, or rather because of, its utter simplicity.

It is my intention to make this mysterious debt-money system comprehensible to everyone. It is also my intention to foster sufficient understanding of the problems with this money system that citizens will be motivated to join the monetary reform movement and/or create local alternatives to the global monetary system - a system in which most of the productive people of the world are collectively chained to an ever-increasing and perpetually unpayable debt.

This is a system designed for elite control of the people by those who have given themselves the privilege of creating money. It is also, I believe, a system that is designed for catastrophe. As the movie explains, there can be no sustainable civilization without a sustainable money system. (my emphasis /jc)

http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/ProducersComments.html


A few of the interesting quotes from prominent bankers, economists and statesmen used in the film:

"Each and every time a bank makes a loan (or purchases securities), new bank credit is created — new deposits — brand new money."

Graham F. Towers, Director, Bank of Canada


"The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled."

John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist


"I am afraid that the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that banks can and do create money...And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people"

Reginald McKenna,
past Chairman of the Board, Midlands Bank of England


"If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash, or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless situation is almost incredible -- but there it is."

Robert Hemphill. Credit Manager, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta


"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented.

Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again...

Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit’.”


Sir Josiah Stamp Director, Bank of England 1928-1941


"The inability of the Colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the revolutionary war."

Benjamin Franklin


“All of the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arises, not from the defects of the Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.”

John Adams, Founding Father of the American Constitution


“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce...and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”

James A. Garfield, assassinated president of the United States

http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/references.htm
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:55 PM
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14. Thanky for the heads up!
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:06 AM
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9. Kick .n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:24 AM
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10. K & R! nt
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