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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:54 PM
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God damn it all to hell with the Clinton/Obama race thing.
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 07:01 PM by ithinkmyliverhurts
First, please believe me when I say this post isn't pro/anti- Clinton or Obama. Let me also say up front that there may or may not be something there. It's a debate that I don't wish to have right now. Maybe later, as I don't want to participate in the shit storm brewing in the media (oh, the faxes and emails that are flying in; trust me).

But God damn it. Now the dems. are just going to rip one another apart and the media is going to lap it up like a fat, fucking blue-tick hound slurping away on chicken gravy. Fucking Matthews is going to eat and shit this story forever. God damn it all to hell. We're better than this shit. If it's the Clinton's strategy, well then, fuck them. If it's an Obama strategy, well then, fuck him. If there's real concern, and perhaps there should be, I accept it. But if it's all about strategy, god damn it to hell. We are going to look so incredibly pathetic and small. WE ARE THE PARTY OF CIVIL RIGHTS, and this is our debate right now? Shit.

Sorry, just irritated. Got home form work (friend emailed me about the shitstorm) and finally got to read the news about this crap (again, by "crap" I don't mean that there aren't real concerns). Fuck, this is EXACTLY the kind of shit the repubs. want to happen. EXACTLY. God damn it.

Ohhh, the fucking shitbag press is going to love this. They'll get to be so fucking condescending towards the Clintons to show just how enlightened the media are.

I'm not taking sides here: I'm simply trying to make the point that if this shit is done for strategic reasons (from whichever camp), then it's bad strategy for the Democratic Party. You may win the primary (whoever that "you" may be), but this reduces us to fucktwits.

O.K., that's enough. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. O.K.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:58 PM
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1. "O.K., that's enough. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. O.K."
It's possible to prolong the "F" sound, but I notice that you chose to prolong only the "U" sound. I conclude that you are an anti-consonantist. Your pro-vowel bigotry has been noted.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:00 PM
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4. Go ahead and yell "fuck" out of frustration.
Do you emphasize the "F" or the "Uh."

It's not that I like vowels more; it's just that I like consonants less. Consonants really just don't pull their weight, and they're not as phonemically versatile as vowels. It can be linguistically proven that vowels are superior to consonants.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:58 PM
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2. Righteous rant, K&R...n/t
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:49 PM
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9. If this rant was righteous, oooh boy . . .
You ought to see some of my unrighteous one where I'm really pissed.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:59 PM
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3. I think the corporate media is responsible for most of it...
they're stirring it up.

Meanwhile, on the repuke side those pasty old guys are doing plenty of mudslinging on their own and it's barely a blip on the radar.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:18 PM
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7. I think if they monitor
this or any other political board, we're certainly giving them a lot of ammunition. And I agree with the OP - the media loves this shit and will keep it going as long as we show an interest in it. And it's going to hurt us.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:02 PM
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5. huh?
"shit storm brewing in the media (oh, the faxes and emails that are flying in; trust me). "
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:05 PM
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6. 2 friends who work at media outlets:
1) medium-sized local NBC affiliate
2) big national media outlet. BIG. He gets to see all sorts of email/faxes blasted by campaigns.
#2 is the one who alerted me to the potential size of this stupid thing. Let's just say it ain't only the dems. who are emailing/faxing things.
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Hillary2008. Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:21 PM
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8. .
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:06 PM
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13. Tell us what you -really- think!
*sniff sniff*
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:09 AM
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16. One, two, or three dots? I love the search function sometimes.
I've done my duty.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:06 PM
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10. I'm sorry, but I missed the news today....
what stupid thing?
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:56 PM
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11. Just a couple:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/politics/11clyburn.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/south_carolinas_big_dog_threat.html

Again, I give the links not trying to slam the Clintons (the articles here are all critical of the Clintons) but simply to show the "story" that has the potential to get some legs.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:52 PM
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12. And now front page at Huffingtonpost.
Sigh.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:26 AM
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14. And the Meet The Press, 1st question
New yourk Times front page. So my original rant was justified.

Idiots.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:30 AM
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15. Does anyone remember when I got excoriated for a "Race Card" thread?
Four words:

I TOLD YOU SO.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:03 AM
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17. Completely. You're right. That's what's happening, and will
happen if we -- collective we -- cannot stop indulging the temptation for negative, personal, stupid attacks.

I think the Clintons were wrong -- again -- this time. And I think they harm first her campaign, but more importantly, the DEM campaign and the country with this nonsense.

Let's get back to the positive stuff. She's got it, he's got it. Let's talk about where we want this country to go, and how we'll get there. Let's stop indulging the MSM's desire to make this about gender or race.
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