marmar
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:17 AM
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Freepers blame Ahhnuld, Gray Davis and Mexicans for California's budget crisis |
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Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:27 AM by marmar
:crazy: :crazy: ..... did I mention that Freepers are :crazy: and :dunce:? Witness: "The irony is rich: He is facing a repeat of the financial crisis that undid Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, the man Schwarzenegger ousted in a turbulent recall election.... Schwarzenegger cut taxes but not spending, which has risen 30 percent since he took office."
'Nuff said...
And all those FReepers who supported and voted for this clown are no where to be heard from on FR.
1 posted on 01/12/2008 6:04:10 AM PST by kellynla < Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies >
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach ping
2 posted on 01/12/2008 6:04:45 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla He’s better than Bustamante. At least your not required to fly the tri color flag over the state capitol.
3 posted on 01/12/2008 6:06:34 AM PST by KC_Conspirator < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla Jennifer Granholm should be called in as a budget consultant. (that’s sarcasm folks)
4 posted on 01/12/2008 6:13:01 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla The irony is rich: He is facing a repeat of the financial crisis that undid Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, the man Schwarzenegger ousted in a turbulent recall election.
Couldn’t happen to a better man. Here’s hoping this shuts up all the RINOs pointing to Ahnold as the new model of governance for the Rep party.
5 posted on 01/12/2008 6:16:37 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla Recall Ahnold. NOW.
6 posted on 01/12/2008 6:16:42 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: RKV Wouldn’t that be ironic!
7 posted on 01/12/2008 6:17:35 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies >
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To: Westlander Granholm gets my vote for exportation to Kalifornia
8 posted on 01/12/2008 6:17:53 AM PST by racnpartsales4u ("His sex organs took the heaviest blow," an unidentified nurse told the newspaper.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla How do you SHUT a state park? Don’t the parks belong to the public?
9 posted on 01/12/2008 6:20:29 AM PST by NewCenturions ('S mòr mo mhulad, 's mòr.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: KC_Conspirator Our flag is tri-colored. Just a point
10 posted on 01/12/2008 6:21:13 AM PST by NCBraveheart < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla There was a post yesterday regarding the projected $14.5 billion deficit in Mexifornia. It pointed out that state provided services (handouts, freebies, etc.) provided to illegals comprise $10 billion of the $14.5 billion projected deficit.
I wouldn't be too surprised to hear that some of the remaining deficit is also the cost of state officials fighting legal battles to prevent federal officials from deporting illegals.
So the state could make huge lasting cuts in the deficit by diverting some of the $10 billion to identifying illegals and refusing to provide discretionary services to them but won't. (I know - primary education and emergency medical care are not discretionary. But providing food stamps, housing, college assistance, etc. are not yet mandated by federal courts.)
Are there any rational people in public office anywhere at any level in this country?
11 posted on 01/12/2008 6:22:44 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla Schwarzenegger cut taxes but not spending, which has risen 30 percent since he took office." 'Nuff said...
Sounds like the RINO in the White House. Cut taxes, but spend like a drunken sailor on his first shore leave.
12 posted on 01/12/2008 6:22:47 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla And all those FReepers who supported and voted for this clown are no where to be heard from on FR. I would have voted for Davis. Because I'm no fool.
13 posted on 01/12/2008 6:23:03 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: KC_Conspirator He’s better than Bustamante. Beat me to it! However, it's amazing how modern day politics comes down to the lesser of 2 evils.
14 posted on 01/12/2008 6:25:55 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies >
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To: saganite It’s the very same logic as resulted in the recall of Davis. The Gubernator won’t take the hard steps to reduce spending so the state operates within its means. Some government functions are less important than others and the lower priority ones need to go. Eliminate duplication of effort vis a vis federal laws and go to town. Don’t cut across the board first off, cut functions then fit the ones that are left to the priority and available funds. Its no fun, but necessary to get us off the roller coaster cycle of boom and bust. Sending illegals home wouldn’t hurt either - end the need for bilingual education that way, and cut the strain on social services caused by low wage workers who cost the state more than they save private enterprise in wages.
15 posted on 01/12/2008 6:26:39 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla $14 bill deficit, $10 bill in services to illegals.
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To: Iron Munro I believe in no services to illegals, except any emergency medical care absolutely required to get them back home or to prevent them from spreading a contagious disease while they are deported. Educating their children and providing welfare just provide incentives for them to be here and for more to come.
21 posted on 01/12/2008 6:30:11 AM PST by purpleraine < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla Socialism fails every time its tried!
22 posted on 01/12/2008 6:32:12 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: kellynla Shortly after he was elected, the Republican asked the Legislature to adopt a spending cap, but the Democrats who control both chambers refused.
Hmm....
The democrats control both chambers?
Wonder if that's the source of their problems. That and a RINO as governor with a very liberal wife who probably is looking over his shoulders on everything he does.
But, the biggest problem with California is the people. If the people keep electing liberals and RINOs to office, their problems won't ever go away. They'll just get bigger. Socialism has never created a productive economy. California is the proof. It just takes time for the results of socialism to overtake whatever good there More, sadly, at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952531/posts
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:25 AM
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1. Pay no attention to the mortgage crisis behind the curtain. |
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CA relies a great deal on property taxes on private homes (and doesn't tax commercial real estate so much).
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:59 AM
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8. And don't forget Prop 13, which allowed institutional property owners |
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to keep paying taxes at 1980 rates forever ...
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Sat Jan-12-08 06:04 PM
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11. That's what I'm talking about. |
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How many young couples with two children, two working parents, living on $50k to $80k are paying property tax based on a value of more than $300K? How many companies are paying taxes based on valuations much less than $300K (ie, 1980-90 property values)?
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:33 AM
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2. "$10 billion of the $14.5 billion projected deficit" is services to illegals? |
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That has to be bullshit.
Looks like Arhnold isn't winning any hearts and minds in California . . . .
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:56 AM
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7. I think it must be for education, emergency medical care, and incarceration. |
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According to Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), an immigration reduction advocacy group, California's education system spends $7.7 billion each year on the about 1 million children of illegal immigrants. The study did not estimate how many of the children were citizens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#_note-9
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:40 AM
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3. I don't understand this, didn't Enron give back what they stole?? |
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Or did they find a friend in office to let them off so to speak?
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Lasher
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:41 AM
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4. In denial over failed Republican ideologies. |
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Their sacred trickle down scam exposed as such by anyone with half a brain, they say Junior and Arnold are not real Republicans. See, their failed ideologies aren't in question. Real Republicans don't believe in deficit spending.
I wonder if any of them remember Saint Ronnie's record breaking deficits.
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:55 AM
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6. Nope according to the freeper mind set Saint Dumb shit Raygun inherited that |
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record deficit from Jimmy Carter. Never mind facts or reality, your dealing with people who think Father knows best, happy days and the Flintstones were not made up TV shows but documentaries. How else can you explain a group of numb nuts that haven't figured out that by giving the rich tax breaks they are the ones who pay for those tax breaks. As far as pissing down someones back and calling it trickle down economics, these are the same people that believe if they donate money they have left over from the rich tax breaks to their mega Church Santa Jesus will answer their prayers and give them riches too. When it don't pan out, they either aren't praying hard enough or they aren't building big enough Church's to please Santa Jesus.
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Sat Jan-12-08 12:44 PM
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9. But I thought Saint Ronnie's deficits were Clinton's fault. |
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No wait, that can't be right. Oh, now I remember (and I kid you not, I've actually seen this claim) we have Saint Ronnie to thank for the prosperity & fiscal discipline of the Clinton years. Yep it was The Goober's policies that paid off. Just a little delayed reaction there.
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Sat Jan-12-08 10:45 AM
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5. The reason given for the Recall of Davis was fiscal malfeasance |
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I remember at the time there were ratios given of the debt, you know debt compared to income. I am unable to remember what that ratio was but I do remember how incensed the Republicans were over it. Funny thing though when you applied the exact same formula for Bush* and the USA debt ratio, Bush* had Davis beat by a country mile..and not in a good way...
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Sat Jan-12-08 01:40 PM
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10. Let's not forget those 80,000 non-violent offenders in CA prisons... |
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That includes 30,000 people whose only crime was a drug offense.
And all those prison guards making $60,000 a year or more.
Shut prisons, not parks!
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