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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:43 PM Original message |
John Kerry: I won the 2004 Election |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. I know too, John |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. He m ay have if he had listened to Edwards and fought in the South |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Sorry |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
98. OMG- |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. EVERYONE ATTENTION PLEASE -- THE ARTICLE IN THE OP IS A FORGERY |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Yeah, he won, but we already know that. We know Edwards |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. Edwards did nothing but wink, wink, wink. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because knowing it, and being able to prove it, are two different things |
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adadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. You're exactly right |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Gore DID fight. Gore fought alone for weeks while everyone in the Democratic |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. and Kerry may have thought he did not want to take the nation through that again?? |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. He might have thought that and if he did then I believe that he was tragically, |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. That is a shockingly defeatist and sad comment on your opinion of |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
70. According to the polls in 2000 and 2004, the nation *wanted* to go through that. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
101. Better that than the alternative, |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. "remained in the Vice Presidents Residence" Duh.He lived there. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. It was a brave stand. He and his family were beseiged by the same types of goons |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Yes what a picture that was! |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. At the time the media was behaving like this was a local grass roots group. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. word |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
71. Exactly - the DLC-led Democratic Party basically hung Gore out to dry ... |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
68. I seriously never understand |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. RFK, Jr. dug up some pretty compelling evidence... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. How much of that would Kerry have known and been able to prove on that night in 2004 |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. It was not a big secret. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
79. Most Dems have no idea that 2004 elections was stolen. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. LittleClarkie - Kerry had 10,000 lawyers across the nation that could've |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Because the Ohio Courts ruled that the voting machines could NOT be released? |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. It still would have crushed the BS 'Mandate' rhetoric by FuzzNuts |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. Despite court ruling - Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election Records Are Destroyed |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. And 45 million dollars of campaign money to pay them. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Probably a very small part, just the evidence of intimidation at polling places and... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. SCOTUS, a.k.a. "Clowns In Gowns" started this downhill slide IMAO eom |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Obama--"I am absolutely convinced |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Now read post #27 re Obama and Bloomberg nt |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. OK, read it. I keep asking |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
102. Spoiler. Think repeat of Perot in '92 nt |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. The RFK number show that more people WANTED to cast votes for Kerry, not that they did |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Yeah, but you really need to read the entire article. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
73. I read the entire article when it came out |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. backwards |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. So what does this mean: |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sounds like a canned response |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. When I met him during the summer of 2006 |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Jesus...K&R... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. k&r. had he seenthis on election night 2004, history would have been |
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Left coast liberal (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Haunting indeed. Why didn't he fight it? |
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old guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. No,John you didn't. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. I AM BITING MY LIPS TO KEEP FROM TYPING REEEEEEALY ANGRY NASTY WORDS |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Thanks....your post expresses what I was about to do...and am doing! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Your last sentence is despicable and untrue |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
96. I hope that last sentence was sarcasm. If not, it should have been. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. just days after the election I had a conversation.. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
17. Your post is why I have said his endorsement of Obama is a mixed blessing- |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Obama's pilgrimage to Bloomberg Nov. 29th says it all. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. GAWD DAMNIT!!! |
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KatyaR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. Fat lot of good that did us, John-- |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. Just when you thought it couldn't get more sickening, |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Do ANY of these people have a conscience? I really wonder any more. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. I believe he won too. However, are you sure he heard the question correctly? |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. He heard it wrong. It was noisy |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. How idiotic. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. I can't be very angry at John Kerry any more. |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. "we are ALL responsible" |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Nope, try again |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. He did. He filed a lawsuit and he was treated unfairly in the press. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
89. He gave up the spotlight/power when he conceded. We were powerless to defend |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. I've come to the conclusion that Kerry's public involvement |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Kerry, unlike Gore did not have the party behind him to refuse to concede |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. The humble voters were behind him. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Which COULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROVEN nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Why does anyone have to prove our elections are dirty? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Faulty logic |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Faulty reading. I didn't state it was Senator Kerry's job. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Gore also won the national popular vote--Kerry even with Ohio would have lost it. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. It wasn't just OH in 2004. It was New Mexico, Missouri and the ExPat vote. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Hey, hey, hey. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. I'm a little uppity with folks who want to downplay the Kerry/Edwards victory |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. My family and my friends won't even go there |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Exactly. n/t |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Amen. People want Gore to run. Why would he want to the way |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kerry SHOULD have been running for re-election this year: |
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moodforaday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. What is it called when you |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. No guts. Piles of dry powder. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. Quotes are used when someone said the words within them Kerry did't |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
50. Cut him some slack, he didn't fight for it, but he got the Patriots last game televised! |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
52. I believe Kerry's "girls" were threatened. Remember when |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. Gore won. Kerry didn't. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. He won too, You don't know it because he kept the omerta on it - his fault. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
62. I disagree with a major part of that premise |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
83. An investigaton would discourage people from voting?? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
88. Executive orders, vetos - Clinton accomplished a lot this way. Even built consensus |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. If he knows, and knew |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
77. Well... at least he fought hard to get the NE Patriots game televised nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
86. So, when is he going to make it public? he sent operatives to take back previous |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
90. As someone who sweated blood over the 04 election, I would just like to say |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
91. Any idea what happened with the Qui Tam lawsuit? |
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focusfan (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
92. if the idiot won then why did he conceed so easy |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
93. He admitted it to Mark Crispin Miller right after the selection: Author of Fooled Again. |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
94. Then why in the hell didn't you fight for it? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
95. Inteesting, then there is something to the "Skull & Bones" thng after all... |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
99. I sincerely hope that this year we don't get a replay. |
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peabody71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
100. That's why he supported Obama the way he did. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
103. kpete -- this article is a LIE -- a plagiarism of exactly the same article posted a long tome ago. |
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