"Clinton Blames Obama Camp Over Remark" No more playing nice.

[in_cog_ni_to]

Clinton Blames Obama Camp Over Remark
By PHILLIP ELLIOTT, AP
48 minutes ago

<snip>
Clinton was questioned by reporters about South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn's reaction to her comments last week that seemed to suggest that President Lyndon B. Johnson should get more credit for passage of major civil rights legislation rather than King.

Clyburn, in an interview in The New York Times, had expressed disappointment in the Clinton campaign over what she had said as well as former President Clinton's remark in New Hampshire about Obama telling a "fairy tale" in his opposition to the Iraq war.

"I regret the way that this matter has been used," Clinton told reporters. "The comments about it are baseless and divisive. I was personally offended at the approach taken that was not only misleading but unnecessarily hurtful."

She suggested reporters consider the sources of the criticism, much of which has come from the black community.

"I think it clearly came from Senator Obama's campaign and I don't think it's the kind of debate we should be having in our campaign," she said.

Clyburn, one of the leading Democrats in South Carolina and a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, has said he will remain neutral in the Democratic presidential primary. South Carolina Democrats vote on Jan. 26.<snip>

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/politics/2007/12/22/Clinton.Obama/

[Karenina]

1. When you're in a hole...

STOP DIGGING.

[journalist3072]

2. I suggest you take that advice and not make an ass out of yourself

[Karenina]

12. I am not running for office.

:popcorn:

[emilyg]

50. But you are part of the human race.

[EFerrari]

23. Does the Clinton campaign know you're all over the internets

calling out potential voters?

[burythehatchet]

39. sssshhh! These clowns do mor to damage Clinton than I ever could

so either way, its all good.

[EFerrari]

40. . . .

:crazy:

[girl gone mad]

33. Or,

try to pull your opponent down in it, which is what these two seem to be doing day after day.

[Karenina]

55. You SURE got that right!!!

[LittleClarkie]

53. I'd always heard that when you're in a hole...

call it a tunnel and insist that there's a light at the end of it.

[Karenina]

56. LOL!!!

:rofl:

[niceypoo]

54. Obama is running a crybaby campaign

He marches Al Sharpton out at the slightest criticism. Obamas camp has started making it about race. Meanwhile, Obama has no problem whatsoever with the 24/7 anti-Clinton hate fest being perpetrated in his name.

[jezebel]

3. So she gets to say the remark, and then blame Obama for people not being happy with the remark.

Can she get anymore ridiculous?

[Tarheel_Dem]

5. All she needs to do now is find a South Carolina "diner"....

and give another award winning performance, play the victim, and everyone will go running to the Clinton camp. She is some piece of work.

[Yael]

9. I believe it was a Reno, Nevada diner today

We will know at the 11p MST news...

[knowledgeispwr]

14. It's a head scratcher

Clinton says X, people get upset about X, then all of a sudden Obama is "pulling the race-card"?!?!?


The cynical side of me is starting to believe the Clinton campaign is using coded language to goad black people into making a fuss so they can turn around and blaim Obama for "making it into a race thing" and remind white America about how "overly sensitive" those black folk are.

[dkf]

15. Yeah like the Clinton's would never try that. Mr. Master Strategist

blech.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

47. Yes, it's almost as if one campaign feels it would benefit from dragging the other campaign down

into a dirty nasty mudfight over race, and away from their positive, upbeat conciliatory "fairy tale" message.

I'm sure the Democratic Party as a whole will benefit and come out all the stronger in the general election from such a process though! :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

25. It's like slugging someone in the jaw and then blaming them for hurting your fist.

It's an AMAZING 'victim/villain' flip-flop. And people will buy it. Fucking disgusting.

[fascisthunter]

34. I Agree...

Amazingly consistent low behavior from her supporters on DU too.

[tularetom]

4. If Clinton isn't tough enough to stand up to the crap Obama is throwing

at her she'll break down completely once the Repubs start in on her. She is fond of accusing Obama of being too innocent and naive to be an effective president but as of right now he appears far more skilled at playing the political game than either Clinton. He's got her fending off attacks of racism, and she is the one constantly on the defensive. I don't think Obama is the kumbaaiya singing innocent she would like us to think he is, I believe he is a far tougher and smarter politician than she is. He can certainly think on his feet faster than she can.

Whether or not he would make a better president I don't know, but he's a smarter campaigner.

[sandnsea]

7. Chicago politics

He and Michelle say it all the time. Not tough enough? You're kidding, right?

[kikiek]

27. All he has shown is that he is dirtier, and manages to divert the dirt.

Nothing to brag about that his campaign can get down and dirty with the worst of them. I thought he was platforming change? Same crap we got in the WH now.

[annie1]

48. agree that he is a much better campaign. by FAR. She sucks. and he is great at it.

[TwilightGardener]

6. Clyburn doesn't like her LBJ/MLK comment, she says "consider the source"

as if to blame the Obama campaign, but the Obama campaign didn't complain about it--it was from the black community and Clyburn, who is neutral. Uh huh, you run with that, sister. See where it gets ya.

[Yael]

8. Keep talking, Hillary. I think its working!

:thumbsup:

(Please note sarcasm)

[rocktivity]

10. Rocknation Blames Clinton Over Making Remark In The First Place

:rofl:
rocknation

[Adelante]

11. LOL

:rofl:

[kikiek]

13. It is all part of Obama's plan. He is the dirty one in this race.

An Associated Press-Ipsos poll out this week shows that while Clinton and Obama are in a tight race for self-identified "moderate Democrats," Clinton has a strong lead among those who describe themselves as "strong Democrats." The more partisan voters are more likely to vote in the primary, so Obama needs to win them over by sowing the seeds of doubt about their favorite. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/18/america/NA-POL-US-Obama-Clinton.php

[TwilightGardener]

16. Obama praised MLK's optimism, and Hillary reminded New Hampshire voters

in return that LBJ was the REAL hero of the civil rights movement...and some black people got a little annoyed at that. And somehow, it's Obama's fault, because he could magically predict that Clinton was going to stick her foot in her mouth over his speech remarks. Yeah, OK...

[kikiek]

22. He is distorting and dividing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

[TwilightGardener]

29. No, that's called "putting the Clinton camp on notice"--

they are being watched. And after the Shaheen and Kerrey remarks, and the Bob Novak rumor BS, and the voter-suppression tricks and lawsuits and false e-mails and whatever else, they deserve it. Obama is not going to be Swiftboated, he is heading it off at the pass.

[kikiek]

30. It's all bullshit. Sorry. Start opening your eyes and looking around.

[dkf]

18. You think that Obama "needs" to do dirty stuff so he will

race bait?

I say that is a Clinton tactic and beneath Obama.

[kikiek]

20. Yes I am. I disagree with you. It isn't beneath him.

[durrrty libby]

21. I hope their is a huge back lash on the BO. He stinks

[kikiek]

24. If he thinks this is the way to win he does.

[Tarheel_Dem]

37. Wow Again! Ignorance certainly is bliss. And you were the one

who was calling Michael Baisden's audience "stupid, juvenile pigs". I'd rethink the meaning of stupid if I were you. And while you're at it, maybe at your next MENSA meeting you can ask about the proper use of the word "their".

[fascisthunter]

35. The Old Flip Reality Around BS

you make Hillary look worse by the way you project.

[kikiek]

41. Looks like you're projecting using the "old flip reality around bs". He is worse than you think.

[fascisthunter]

42. true to form for a Hillary Bot

man, you people are so low. You act like conservatives did when Bush was running for President.

[kikiek]

43. Aren't you silly now. You have no idea who I am supporting. I am just sick of the stupid and

baseless claims being made against her. And no one seems to care if they are right or wrong about any of it. Call me all the names you like. I don't care they are meaningless. Oh who was that famous guy who said ""You see the splinter that is in your brother’s eye,
but you do not see the beam that is in your (own) eye.
(2) When you remove the beam from your (own) eye,
then you will see clearly (enough) to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye."

[fascisthunter]

44. sure, sure.... (nt)

[ellacott]

17. Wnat's funny is that no one is accusing her of being a racist

They are accusing her of a poor choice of words. Some feel those words were insensitive. I still don't understand the analogy even though she's tried to explain it.

Instead of admitting that this was said wrong she's claiming that people are calling her a racist.

I don't think the Obama campaign called Clyburn and told him to make these statements.

Sounds like she's playing the victim over something she said.

[EFerrari]

26. delete gratuitous slam no one needs to read.

[ellacott]

28. Thank you

[EFerrari]

31. I apologize in retro.

Lol!

:)

ETA: The slam was at the Senator and I realized that there's already a glut in the market.

Duh!

[ellacott]

32. cool

:)

[DemGa]

19. This has really gotten silly

Clearly, Senator Clinton was talking about passing legislation. She made a clumsy remark, perhaps, but there simply is no "there" there.

Her detractors know this as well.

[guruoo]

36. The story itself is a race-baiting mischaracterization of both the statements,

and the events surrounding them, IMO.

[creeksneakers2]

38. Hillary is right about quotes

The quotes are taken out of context and being twisted to mean things that were not said. Most of those Obama supporters are likely reacting either to the out of context quotes or have only heard the twisted versions of what she said.

Here's what happened with MLK:

Here's the Obama quote he reads ...

"False Hopes. Dr King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial looking out over the magnificent crowd, the reflecting pool, the Washington Monument, sorry guys, false hopes, the dream will die, it can't be done, false hope, we don't need leaders who tell us what we can't do, we need leaders to tell us what we can do and inspire us."

He then asks if she would respond and she says ...

"I would, and I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in peoples lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

Nothing negative said here about MLK.

[bvar22]

51. Oh, I get it now.

MLK was just spinning his wheels and not really getting anything done until the WHITE GUY came along and did the REAL work.

Nothing offensive here. :shrug:

[pampango]

57. Great point. Both campaigns are taking quotes out of context and spinning away.

Hillary's statement about MLK and Johnson was not mean spirited. Everyone says things at times that could be expressed better.

Likewise, BO's statement about not knowing how he would have voted on the IWR is quoted out of the context of the 2004 presidential campaign and his desire not to embarass our presidential and vice presidential candidates who had voted for the IWR.

Unfortunately, I don't think either of these campaigns invented the strategy of out of context quotes. Nor do I think either will stop using them.

[shugah]

45. it's all very interesting

considering that the democratic front runners are a woman, a black man, and a wealthy white guy ... it's all new ground here. the candidates alternately tiptoe/try to address/loudly proclaim/talk about/mention in passing/address in depth/explain what they meant ... there are awkward moments for all of them. i think they're all doing well (if you don't buy the MSM spin on each word spoken, whether in context or not).

[Skwmom]

46. Misleading and untruthful?

I think the Clintons corner the market in that area.

[defendandprotect]

49. LBJ doesn't get enough credit . . . for his role in the coup on JFK ---

[cloudythescribbler]

52. The NY TIMES (hardly "Obamanauts") described HRC's comments on this point as "peculiar" ... nt

It was in an editorial on unity and divisiveness published on January 9, if you want to check it....