At least 121 American veterans have killed someone or been charged in a death since returning home

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NEW YORK -- At least 121 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans have committed a killing or been charged in one in the United States after returning from combat, The New York Times reported Sunday.

The newspaper said it also logged 349 homicides involving all active-duty military personnel and new veterans in the six years since military action began in Afghanistan, and later Iraq. That represents an 89-percent increase over the previous six-year period, the newspaper said.

About three-quarters of those homicides involved Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, the newspaper said. The report did not illuminate the exact relationship between those cases and the 121 killings also mentioned in the report.

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[alarimer]

2. Well that's a pretty crappy thing to say.

I would argue that it is this stupid war that is making them psychotic.

[bobbolink]

3. You're only partly right, and therefore blaming the victim.

It should be obvious to everyone that many were in the military long before that (illegal) war began, and they didn't join to go kill in the middleeast. You know that, right?

The vietnam war created the same crimes, and those servicepeople, a lot of them, were DRAFTED, not volunteer.

War is hell, and it creates all kinds of backlash, none of it pretty.

Your generation can blame the individuals, and keep cheering for more wars and getting the same results, or you can understand what war does to a society, and be determined to put an end to war.

Your society, your choice.

[greenvpi]

4. The victim?

They volunteered! I can give some sympathy to a poor 18 year-old minority who didn't know what they were getting into and didn't have other options, but the fact is that any of them that would have joined before Bush started the war would have completed their initial commitment by now.

[bobbolink]

7. How old are you? I sure hope I don't live in your world, with that kind of heartlessness.

We've had enough of that the last 7 years.

Enjoy your stay......:eyes:

[Skittles]

11. um

you sound like a repuke

[Mugu]

8. It's clearly better to be silent and thought an ignorant bigot

than to write an obviously bigoted post on a Democratic website (thereby attempting to make the site look guilty by association) and remove all doubt (clearly stolen from Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln, or somebody else. Google it and make up your own mind.) You are the very first person that I have ever felt the need to put on "Ignore" in my many years on this site. I never wish to see your juvenile, hate-filled thoughts again and I intend to kick this thread on a regular basis so others can see your blatant bigotry against our (in your words) "very often violent, and just not that smart" young men and women in the military.

Be gone bigot, Mugu

[Common Sense Party]

9. You're an asswipe, and I doubt you've ever met anyone in the military.

"They're often very violent and just not that smart."

You, by contrast, have just dazzled us on this thread with your stunning intellect.

[genie_weenie]

10. What a crap response.

Once you've "seen the elephant" things are never the same, but to broadbrush those who've been exposed to the worst of mankind (and you're low post count) shows you're true colors as a plant.

[devilgrrl]

12. Wow! Who left the cat door open?

[Traveling_Home]

5. Before you smear - what is the

rate for non-veterans in the same age group? Is it higher or lower? What is the rate of drunkenness/alcoholism among non-veterans in the same age group for comparison?

Without that information you're just another....

[I work for workers]

6. Then the odds of a veteran committing murder are not much higher then the odds a civilian will.

That's using extremely rough math counting total troop levels and not accounting for the total number of military personal who have ever served in Iraq or Afghanistan, which would be a higher number and lower percentage.