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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:15 AM
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FUN with the REICH --- --- --- (photo heavy) --- --- ---


"I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy,
unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce." -- J. Edgar Hoover




“You know how I got to be in charge of counterintelligence? I agreed not to polygraph
or require detailed background checks on Allen Dulles and 60 of his closest friends...
They were afraid that their own business dealings with Hitler’s pals would come out.
They were too arrogant to believe that the Russians would discover it all..." -- James J. Angleton




"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist
due to the irresponsibility of its own people.
The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters
to be left to decide for themselves." -- Henry Kissinger




"I am astonished that President Ford wants to suppress the committee's report on assassination
and keep it concealed from the American people. -- Frank Church




"When you meet the President (Reagan) you ask yourself,
'How did it ever occur to anybody that he should be governor,
much less President?'" -- Henry Kissinger




"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.
My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true,
but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." -- Ronald Reagan




"Money trumps peace. Sometimes." -- George W. Bush
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:21 AM
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1. My personal favorite...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:26 AM
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2. Odd they would share a laugh, let alone be on friendly terms. Here's one I like:


"I required and obtained all requisite Saudi Government authority
to disburse any funds from the Riggs account." -- Bandar bin Sultan

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:28 AM
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3. IMO, it's a little more than odd...
Happy New Year, my friend!!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:29 AM
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4. and that is no laughing matter!!..none of it is!!...do read Barry and the Boys...
by Daniel Hopsicker..

there are many many scum bags..and assassins in our government!!

My friends brother just died from drugs..the drugs that both those characters infested our country with!

Who's family is immune in this country today?

and the greedy bastards sit there and laugh..who are they laughing at today???????

fly
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:37 AM
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7. My deepest sympathies on your friend's loss. I hate what these gangsters have done to our country.


``I want to salute Reverend Moon who is the founder of the Washington Times and of the new paper here...
A lot of my friends in South America don't know about the Washington Times but it is an independent voice...
The editors of the Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered
with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington DC.'' -- George H. W. Bush
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:44 AM
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8. thanks Octafish..such a waste of a young life..but there are many like him all over this land ..
of ours..and the real drug dealers..are our present and x presidents..can't we get an honest one this time with no ties to the crimes?

is that too much for a parent to ask..or are enough parents asking the right questions?

who owns who?? and follow the money..if you can't answer that honestly, to even yourself before you vote..you should not vote!

spare the next sad family.


where did your candidate get their money from..ask the question and demand the answers!
fly

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:22 AM
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19. "follow the money"
Always.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 AM
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44. Yes.
Know your BFEE.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 AM
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5. K&R5
Powerful.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:49 AM
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10. ''No one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon...''


"Let me address this question because it has been on the table.

I think that concern about what I might have known or we might have known was provoked by some statements that I made in a press conference. I was in a press conference to try and describe the August 6 memo, which I've talked about here in my opening remarks and which I talked about with you in the private session.

And I said, at one point, that this was a historical memo, that it was -- it was not based on new threat information. And I said, 'No one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon' -- I'm paraphrasing now -- 'into the World Trade Center, using planes as a missile.'

As I said to you in the private session, I probably should have said, 'I could not have imagined,' because within two days, people started to come to me and say, 'Oh, but there were these reports in 1998 and 1999. The intelligence community did look at information about this.'

To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Chairman, this kind of analysis about the use of airplanes as weapons actually was never briefed to us." -- Condoleeza Rice

SOURCE: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:48 AM
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26. My son just told me his Social Studies teacher thinks Condi is great.
Astounding. My son's being taught by an educator who thinks a Chevron-primped proto-fascist with mountains of Iraqi and American soldier blood on her hands is "admirable". What bullshit.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:21 AM
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28. I Hope You Set Him Strraight
My 6 year old already knows these are mafia thugs, the ENTRE lot of them. I would have a word with the teacher if I were you. Good morning cutie.:hi:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:39 AM
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30. I know you are, but what am I??????
:rofl:

Oh, he knows ALL about the Cabal of Crapola and their nastiness. And from what I hear, some of his teachers are like that, others aren't.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:52 AM
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32. Are You Giving Me A Ration Of Crap Hugh?
This has been a weird morning. I need to go back to bed.:loveya:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:29 PM
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49. Actually, Octafish, have you read about how the Site Profiler predicted the Pentagon attack?
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 05:30 PM by Elspeth
From: The Numbers behind Numb3rs, by Keith Devlin and Gary Lorden, 2007. pg. 79-80




In May 2001, a software system called Site Profiler was fielded to all US military installations around the world. The software provided site commanders with tools to help to assess terrorist risks, to manage those risks, and to develop standardized anti-terrorism plans. The system worked by combining different data sources to draw inferences about the risk of terrorism, using a mathematical technique called Bayesian inference.

Prior to the system's deployment, its developers carried out a number of simulation tests, which they referred to in a paper they wrote the year before.* Summarizing the results of the tests, they noted: "While these scenarios showed that the RIN (Risk Influence Network) "worked", they tended to be exceptional (eg, attacks against the Pentagon.)

As the world now knows, the Pentagon was the site of an attack. Unfortunately, neither the military command nor the U.S. government had taken seriously Site Profiler's prediction that the Pentagon was in danger--nor, for that matter had the system's developers themselves, who viewed the predition as "exceptional".



* An Application of Bayesian Networks to Anti-Terrorism Risk Management for Military Planners, by Linwood D. Hudson, Bryan S. Ware, Suzanne M. Mahoney and Kathryn Blackmond Laskey.




The military actually had a computer-assisted prediction that the Pentagon was a likely site for a terrorist attack, but no one took it seriously.

I wonder now, if Chertoff's stomach grumblings are based on Site Profiler results or those of some similar system.

Edited for spelling.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:37 AM
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6. Bush family: three generations (at least) of occultists
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 12:39 AM by SpiralHawk
Nazi sympathizer and financier, republicon Prescott Bush, his son republicon George H.W. Poppy Bush, and the current republicon George AWOL Bush: all hanging tight with secret liftime oaths at the occult and self-imagined 'elite' Skull & Boner society...

What would Jesus do? We he join an occult cabal such as this?

I believe not.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:58 AM
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13. Jesus would never steal Geronimo's bones, especially his skull.


"I'm going to be so much better a president for having been at the CIA that you're not going to believe it." -- George H. W. Bush

Bush Family Connections to Financing Hitler
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:43 AM
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21. Yes, Jesus would not have become a republicon occultist like George AWOL Bush
or like Ronald Reagan, though astrology did -- as historically documented -- give republicon Ronalad Reagan the occult gift of 'perfect timing' throughout his terms.

Republicons are, as they demonstrate repeatedly, very much into occultism...

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:48 AM
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9. The man in the middle is really happy!!!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:45 PM
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37. Great artists understand the situation in which we find ourselves...
Bush doesn't have a clue that he is one lucky war criminal. It's my opinion that Clinton has his head and heart on our side. What he doesn't know is how many of us there really are -- who would back him in the fight for the nation's soul. Here's a visual explaining just how connected the big money -- the mother's milk of American politics -- flows:





"In 1994 I began a series of drawings I refer to as 'narrative structures.' Most were executed in graphite or pen and ink on paper. Some are quite large, measuring up to 5 x 12 feet.

"I call them 'narrative structures' because each consists of a network of lines and notations which are meant to convey a story, typically about a recent event of interest to me, like the collapse of a large international bank, trading company, or investment house. One of my goals is to explore the interaction of political, social and economic forces in contemporary affairs. Thus far I have exhibited drawings on BCCI, Lincoln Savings, World Finance of Miami, the Vatican Bank, Silverado Savings, Castle Bank and Trust of the Bahamas, Nugan Hand Limited of Sydney, Australia, and many more.

"Working from syndicated news items and other published accounts, I begin each drawing by compiling large amounts of information about a specific bank, financial group or set of individuals. After a careful review of the literature I then condense the essential points into an assortment of notations and other brief statements of fact, out of which an image begins to emerge.

My purpose throughout is to interpret the material by juxtaposing and assembling the notations into a unified, coherent whole. In some cases I use a set of stacked, parallel lines to establish a time frame. Hierarchical relationships, the flow of money and other key details are then indicated by a system of radiating arrows, broken lines and so forth. Some of the drawings consist of two different layers of information—one denoted in black, the other, red. Black represents the essential elements of the story while the major lawsuits, criminal indictments or other legal actions taken against the parties are shown in red. Every statement of fact and connection depicted in the work is true and based on information culled entirely from the public record."

—Mark Lombardi
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:58 PM
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40. Did he ever publish those?
Are they perhaps available online?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:52 PM
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42. Another VERY SUSPICIOUS suidice...
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 09:54 PM by Raster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lombardi

Success and death

After two highly successful solo art shows (Silent Partners, shown on 20 November 1998 at Joe Amrhein's gallery, Pierogi 2000, located near Lombardi's apartment; and Vicious Circles - a work drawing upon Jonathan Kwitny's book of the same name dealing with Mafia involvement in the legitimate commercial markets - shown on 14 October 1999 at the Deven Golden Gallery) and a popular group show called Greater New York: New Art in New York Now on 27 February 2000 at the P.S 1 art gallery, Mark Lombardi apparently died of suicide (hanging himself in his Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York City studio apartment) in March, 2000, three years after he had moved to Williamsburg.

It has been suggested that the strain of recreating one of his masterpieces (the BCCI-ICIC & FAB, 1972-91, which was destroyed by the sprinkler system in Lombardi's apartment), and of living in New York City, and of the destruction of his car by a taxi, as well as the stress of imminent success, all contributed to what the media portrayed as a manic-depressive condition and eventually to his suicide. A number of friends like Andy Feehan were mystified by Mark's death: "When the news of Mark's death arrived, all of us thought that he was murdered. We assumed that he had made one too many accusations, and that someone made a phone call. We still don't know what happened. We'd read that the medical examiner ruled Mark's death a suicide, but we're unable to understand or accept the idea that Mark would kill himself right when he was at the top of his game."

"...one too many accusations..." Anyone else notice a pattern here?

Wake up America!:kick:

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:45 AM
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47. Art is something that is considered madness to some.
Thus, sometimes they have to cut off their ears so that
some may listen and see.







Mark Lombardi was amazing and nailed it years ago, in his mathematical, geometric analysis.
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:50 AM
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11. Thank gawd for Octafish, something important on DU
Can primary season be over yet? Can we just nominate the next loser due to MSM smear and voting 'irregularities' and get back to documenting the crimes of the right wing yet? I love how everybody's so all fired up to decide which lamb is about to be led to the slaughter. Does anyone really think Obama or HRC will defeat the old war hero? Please.

K n R - if we keep talking about the BFEE, sooner or later we'll get a critical mass of Americans understanding what's really going on here, but if we keep arguing which Dem is gonna lead us to the promised land by centrizing enough to get elected POTUS, the sheeple will just keep sheeplizin'.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:02 AM
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14. Word ^ ^ ^
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:11 AM
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15. Yeah, but livvy got it a hair wrong
We really would be better off with one of the centrists with D next to their name than one of the pukes. Not all the way good by a far sight, but better.

We're just not going to get it, no matter how bumbling the pukes appear right now. Wait till the MSM gets going and the voting machines get warmed up. We'll be looking at a 'heroic' puke pres with an 'obstructionist' congress. The the sheeple will vote out the obstructionists, and it will be back to bizness as usual.

This sick mess isn't going to be fixed until folks find out how bad the TV really is, and how bad the real elites are. In other words, the mess probably won't get fixed. But if it does, it will be due to education of the sheeple, not some rigged-ass election.

General strike!

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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:57 PM
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34. That critical mass is needed
for these to happen:

Face it, real meaningful change won't happen until these three things happen...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4072350

Otherwise, yes, the deal is sealed.
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:54 PM
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38. There's almost no point in bothering
without those three items. Thanks for the succinct list.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:55 PM
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39. Bush summed it up for us when he told us how his day was September 11, 2001...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:58 AM
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12. Look up Paisley...quite interesting..and look at who he was tied in with and who succeeded him!!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 PM
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41. Their taskmasters consider humanity their chattel.
Poor Paisley. Right-handed and he managed to tie himself up, get rid of the shell and clean up the boat.

Poor Colby. I hate the genocidal PHOENIX Program, but he did start to talk about it and other CIA assassination programs to the Church Committee.

Things got quiet as the grave after unelected Jerry Ford replaced him with Poppy Bush.

Chris Dodd and Gary Hart wondered how all that tied in with Dallas on November 22, 1963.

Too bad so few other people made the connection.



Bush's Boys Club: Skull and Bones

Covert Action Information Bulletin
Winter 1990

To be a member of the ruling elite, George Bush must meet certain
criteria. He must be white, he must be male, and he must be rich. He must also
belong to certain elite clubs and institutions which help to distinguish him
from those he is called upon to rule.

George Bush is a member of Skull and Bones, an elite secret society open
only to a select 15 males in their senior year at Yale University. If this club
appears somewhat exclusionary, don't worry; they have made great strides in the
past few years. Recent Bones inductees include a few blacks, gays, and even
some foreign students. However, it has been said that if women were ever
allowed into the secret "tomb" (meeting place) of Skull and Bones, the tomb
would "have to be bulldozed."

The importance of Skull and Bones is not that it provides good gossip
about young males doing strange things in tombs, but that it provides a certain
bond between members which they carry for life. Membership to Skull and Bones
is the first initiation into the world of power politics and capitalism. It is
somewhat akin to a "junior" old boys' network.

One of the interesting aspects of this secret society is the number of
Bones members who, after graduation, move on to do intelligence work. There has
even been informed speculation that there is a "Bones cell" in the CIA.

Whether there is a Bones cell or not in the CIA is open to interesting
debate. We can, however, examine the histories of several Bonesmen who have
gone on to illustrious careers in intelligence work.

One of the most unusual Bonesmen is the Reverend William Sloane Coffin,
Jr. Known best for his anti-Vietnam war activities and his political activism
at Riverside Church in New York City, Sloane Coffin was recruited by the CIA
shortly after he graduated from Yale in 1949. Although his tenure at the Agency
was short, he is one example of the CIA's use of the secret society to fill
their ranks.

Another illustrious Skull and Bones member with close ties to the CIA is
arch-conservative and reknowned propagandist William F. Buckley. According to
several experts on the CIA, Buckley began his cooperation with the Agency while
he was in Mexico City in 1952, where his good friend, E. Howard Hunt, was CIA
station chief at the time.

As an interesting aside, Buckley and Bush (as well as many other
Washington and business elites) are members of the "prestigious" older-boys
California getaway, "The Bohemian Club."

It is not surprising, given the Buckley family's wealth and status, that
Bill's older brother, James Buckley, is also a member of Skull and Bones. From
1981-82 Buckley was Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance, Science,
and Technology where it was his job to see the U.S. military aid went to
support the right regimes.

SNIP...

This old (and new) boys network helps to illustrate the old adage "it's
not what you know, it's who you know." Given the extent of Bones members in
intelligence, it is also "how you come to know it."

SOURCE:

http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/bushboys.htm
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:55 AM
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16. The work is a lot like Genealogy except, instead of following the bloodlines (although that's part )
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 02:30 AM by Wiley50
we follow the money, starting with the age of the robber barons, the great monopolistic dynasties.

The patriarchs of those dynasties are long gone but, their wealth is so far immortal:

Dynasties begat dynasties begat more dynasties

The companies became foundations, think tanks, corporations.

These begat other foundations and corporations who begat others

and on and on and on, growing,not as if a disease, but as the disease it is.

The back story of American history, foreign and domestic policy.

Not the official narrative, but the documented history that is covered up, ignored, forgotten

That truth that hides in the shadows, as it must to hide it's ugliness and evil.


I've learned a whole lot from you and the baker's dozen or so other great DU researchers and investigators, Octafish.

Most of all, I've caught your passion and spend a great deal of time at it these days.

For now, I'm still absorbing the foundation, the data that you folks have uncovered

But someday I hope to come across a new piece of the puzzle

Thanks Octafish

(though in case of Condor II, it may prove a fatal obsession)

on edit: I hate typos

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:52 AM
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17. NO more Clintons. NO more Bushes...No more taking it in our tushes!
Thanks, Octafish!:hi:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:39 AM
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20. FUN FACT: Bill Clinton was tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th Century.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 06:43 AM by Perry Logan
It was the longest sustained economic boom in U.S. history. Income rose at all levels. We had the largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill. The violent crime rate went down for eight straight years.

Honestly, it goes on and on.

Check it out sometime. Knowledge can help you.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:49 AM
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22. By 'on and on', I'm sure you mean NAFTA, The Telecomm Act, Welfare 'Reform',
and Monica-Gate, right?

No thanks.

Bill Clinton certainly had his good moments, but we CAN DO BETTER.

BTW, your overly-snarky post seems right in tune with HRC's campaign.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:58 AM
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23. Here ya go...
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:30 AM
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24. You forgot ' made sure the sun rose in the east EVERY morning.'
:eyes:

Bill had a decent tenure, but without his incredibly stupid and irresponsible ( as cited in my previous post) missteps, I doubt we'd be saddled with GWB.
In a country of 300 million + people, we can do BETTER than the wife (with an unfortunate Senate voting record of her own) of a man who managed to get himself impeached over a blowjob.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:52 AM
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27. One word for ya; NAFTA. It's about destroyed this country too.
:puke:


Mon August 6, 2007

Edwards slams President Clinton over trade deal

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (AP) -- Democratic presidential contender John Edwards on Monday criticized former President Clinton, arguing that he allowed corporate insiders to shape the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement that has cost U.S. jobs.

<snip>

"It's time that the president stood up and fought for American workers," Edwards told a crowd of about 300 people at a union hall in Cedar Rapids. "It's time to have a president that always puts the interests of the American people first."

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"For far too long, presidents from both parties have entered into trade agreements, agreements like NAFTA, promising that they would create millions of new jobs and enrich communities," he said. "Instead, too many of these agreements have cost jobs and devastated towns and communities across this country."

<snip>

Edwards said the trade deal "did not serve the interests of regular workers. It included unprecedented rights for corporate investors, but no labor or environmental protections in the core text. And over the past 15 years, we have seen the growing inequality in the United States, and Mexico and in Canada."

<snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/06/edwards.clinton.trade.ap/index.html
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:26 AM
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29. Hey Monica Give It A Rest
Not only fat but stupid.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:37 AM
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45. Amen to that!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:58 AM
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18. K & R
Great post
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:43 AM
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25. Thank you Octafish for once again showing THE TRUTH. People around here seem to have forgotten.
:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:46 AM
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31. K*R What a priceless photo of Reagan and Bush;) n/t
:kick:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 AM
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33. I don't ever recall seeing a picture of Reagan looking so sour..
he never showed that side of himself in public. I wonder what Poppy said or did to provoke that? It's a pretty well-known fact they despised each other.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:34 PM
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36. "So you see Ron, I'm the President now." ;)
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:21 PM
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35. All that deceit driven by greed just,...
,...makes me incredibly sad. :cry:

The "leaders" for/towards 'democracy' have either been PUBLICLY PERSECUTED or ASSASSINATED.

Think about it.

:cry:

Fundies, PAY ATTENTION!!! Jesus advised AGAINST those in authority, killing all innocents INCLUDING YOU!
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:41 PM
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43. K & R Octafish
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:13 AM
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46. Reagan looks fuzzy eyed--very much like Alzheimer's had taken over. -eom-
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 01:14 AM by live love laugh
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:13 PM
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48. thanks for the pics
:kick:
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