I'm fed-up with the duplicity and the empty rhetoric-we voted for real change in 2006

[bobthedrummer]

and our message has consistently been ignored and smothered by the "new leadership".

Those that actually do things are silenced, shunned and set-up.

Accountability is not change-we don't have that either.

What we have is a criminal administration that was installed almost 7 years ago and has domestic enemies of The United States of America deep in it.

:argh:

[H2O Man]

1. Nominated.

I agree 100%

[MuseRider]

2. K&R

[Mnemosyne]

3. Hear, hear! Go Bob!

:applause:

[Kolesar]

4. I hope you have written to these elected leaders &told them your reasoning on these important issues

Polite letters, of course. I have been doing that.

Dear Sirs,
I am writing to tell your program that you that your viewers are fed up and sick and tired of being told we are fed up and sick and tired!
Sincerely,
xxxxxxxx

(It's a Monty Python joke)

[robertpaulsen]

5. Yes we did. And we have not been represented by our so-called Representatives.

God, I wish I could vote for Bulworth!

[troubleinwinter]

6. We are The Club of The Silenced, Shunned, Set-Up and Pissed Off.

[KoKo]

17. see Post #16.....

[TahitiNut]

22. It sounds like you're in Michigan.

Like me. :grr:

[troubleinwinter]

23. Arizona, where my Native American friends are disenfranchised by the voter ID shit.

Bobthedrummer's mention of "duplicity" set me off. Here's a pal of mine who lost her husband to uranium mining. The mining companies and gov't. knew of the poison, and after a few years of discussing it, decided they really must advise the Navajo of the risks. They handed out cards written in English (knowing the Navajo could not read it). They made protective gear "available", but never told the miners to use it or that it was there and why.

My friend, Libby (just one of many I know), a widow of a uranium miner, has tried for over 30 years to get the compensation money that the gov't. admits is owed to her for the death of her husband by uranium poisoning.

Libby is 95, now. She only wants to live long enough to get the money to drill a well for her village so that the younger people don't have to drive an hour each way, each day to get water for their small sheep flocks. They used to have good water, but it is poison now from the uranium mining in the 50s & 60s.

Not only miners, but children, young adults are dead or horribly disfigured or sick from uranium poisoning.

Homes are polluted and poison. Wells. Streams where the flocks were once watered are never touched anymore, because they are poison. People cannot use the water they used for many hundreds of years.

Rep. Waxman and Rep. Tom Udall (now running for NM Sen.) are two of the few that try to help.

Libby, an American:


Sally, an American:



Oh, wait! I almost forgot to mention that these American women have ALWAYS voted. They have sent their sons and grandsons and granddaughters to war. But they cannot vote anymore. Our Voter ID requires a birth cetificate (they were born at home)... Utility bill with home address (Sally lives on a high mesa with no electricity, running water, gas. She doesn't have an "address". She lives on the mesa, an hour and a half from the trading post.) Sally and Libby probably know more about politics than most Americans. They meet and discuss issues with their community. They are accutely interested in federal gov't.

A high proportion of Indian youth serve in the military. Native Americans have a proud history of service. The Navajo are extremely patriotic. Those that I have spoken to express that "this is a wrong war".

The Navajo vote is huge in my state. They tend to vote Dem., and both parties agree that this state ghas a Dem. governor due to the Navajo vote. Navajos voted 67% Kerry. The Navajo voter turnout FAR exceeds the rest of the state.

Voter ID is not to deal with a fake "illegal" problem, it IS to disenfranchise our AMERICAN voters.

[Psyop Samurai]

26. Thank you for that post...

...it ties a lot of things together, and the photographs really bring it home.

:grouphug:

[truedelphi]

28. I have heard it said that people without the ID's can still do voter absentee ballots.

Don't know if it is true or not.

I get mad any time I hear about the uranium mining and other mining and how it steals the land away fromt he people forever.

The nuclear power people operated in my home state of Illinois - and always said how cheap the nuclear power is. But they never figure in the contamination costs from the uranium mining. I have sat at dinner tables with the engineers and company owners as they talk about their use of the Native Amerian people's land. And it is obvious when you hear them talk, that they don't consider them to be people.

[troubleinwinter]

37. Hard to get an Absentee Ballot when you have no postal address at your home,

and no postal service. Absentees don't work for the many people (like the two pictured in my above post) who do not speak English, and require translation assistance at the polls. Translation is provided at polling places on most of the many reservations.

[truedelphi]

38. What you are saying makes me ill

[troubleinwinter]

39. Voter ID is a deliberate plan to disenfranchise voters in this state.

Navajo voters (160,000 registered) voted 67% for Kerry. Navajos had 90% turnout!!! Whereas the whole state had 66%. Both parties agree that it was the Navajo vote that made the difference in electing (twice) our Dem governor, Janet Napolitano.

So GOP just HAD to get rid of as much of that powerful voting block as they could, and pushed the hell out of this voter ID, under the false guise of preventing "illegals" from voting. Of course, we do have many undocumented people in Arizona, but not one has ever been found to have voted illegally. It is only the legitimate US American citizens who are being disenfranchised, because they tend to vote Dem.

How do these voters get their information, when they have no TV, no computers? They are community oriented and socialize a great deal. Someone will read a newspaper, and they will discuss it for hours. They pay a lot of attention to what the FEDERAL gov't. is up to. They've been fucked over so many times, they know how to read between the lines.

When I stayed with them in July, a woman freind said to me, "There's a recession now. We always know it first. When tourists don't come, we know what the economy is doing." They very much depend on selling their handmade silver jewelry and handwoven rugs to tourists. The gas prices are brutal for them, because most families must drive pickup trucks over windy dirt roads every day to get water for themselves and their sheep flocks... there is no way for them to make up this expense when tourists stay away due to high gas prices and less expendable money.

It makes me sick, too. Thank you for your attention to this.

[Horse with no Name]

29. Please let me add an addendum to your beautiful post

For their courage. For their sacrifice. For their TRUE love of this country.

[troubleinwinter]

32. Thank you for honoring and acknowleging our fellow Americans.

[leftofthedial]

7. the status quo (represented by all the major candidates)

has absolutely NO intention of making any substantive change

[Beam Me Up]

8. You're not alone.

Although at times one might think so reading this board.

I'm not interested in dog and pony politics.

[JuniperLea]

9. Didn't we send Pelosi roses?

Perhaps it's time for a new campaign... we could send her a ton of DEAD roses!

[KoKo]

18. It was Barbara Boxer we sent the roses to....Hundreds of Roses...maybe someone has the DU Picture

of it...and she has truly tried to honor us. But...what she's up against is so overwhelming.

[VP505]

10. What do you mean "we voted for change"?

Didn't you notice the change? The circle jerk in D.C. changed from right hand to left hand and now we are supposed to be happy and appreciative for it. :sarcasm:

[Ravy]

11. You didn't elect enough to get it done. Keep working. nt

[KoKo]

20. "You" didn't elect enough? "You?" ....huh...n/t

[txaslftist]

36. LOL.

We could have 100% Democrats in the House, Senate and the White House, too, and if they are like the Democrats we presently have, nothing would change anyway.

Spineless.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Thanks For Your Concern.

[fascisthunter]

13. It's a Good Thing Most of Us Are (nt)

[OneGrassRoot]

14. K&R n/t

[LucyParsons]

15. My mom has been screaming sentiments such as this over the phone for the past two years.

I think she's not radical enough.

;)

[KoKo]

16. Look at the "Progressive Web Sites"

Firedoglake, Empty Wheel, Daily Kos, Josh Marshall's "TPM" which were in the FRONTLINE of ACTIVISM... Look at how they've backed off and in some cases even "morphed their sites" to "tone down" criticism from raging anger of their Activist Backers.

As Bushies shut down more and more investigations and win more an more legal battles...we Activists start to look puny and weak..and ineffectual at dealing with this MASSIVE CORRUPTION.

Who is shutting us down and why? It's the money. Always follow it. It flows when there's need..like when Dems were trying to get back power in House and Senate...and then it was CUT OFF starting with Nancy and Harry's great speeches about how DEMS had TAKEN BACK BOTH HOUSES!

What CHANGE has the triumph we gave them in '06 produced. NOTHING...but a few INVESTIGATIONS and Resignations by criminals who would have probably been gone if the Repugs had stayed in power because their abuses would have been so odious that Repugs running for re-election wouldn't have tolerated the Gonzales and the Rest Stench to go much further.

Our Dems issued subpoena's NOT HONORED...they ask us to SIGN PETITIONS..tossing bones at the Lefty Activists while Reid wrings his hands and whines about "Not enough VOTES" and Pelosi complains about "Activists hanging their laundry in her San Fran Shrubbery surrounding her home!

Yeah...our Dems in House and Senate can talk "a good line" that they are doing the INVESTIGATIONS that the REPUGS didn't do all these years...BUT...WHERE ARE THE RESULTS? WHERE IS THE POWER? Still with BUSH and his "Signing Statements, Executive Orders" and his "Goons" who ENFORCE the Justice Dept, Pentagon, FDA, FCC and EVERY OTHER BRANCH OF THE BUSH GOVERNMENT BY FORCE and DOCTRINE.

[OneGrassRoot]

19. What you said. n/t

[troubleinwinter]

24. There ya go. No argument here. I am angrier every day, I'd not thought it possible.

[truedelphi]

27. Most of the nation is angry.

If you look at the repugs and their side of things, Huckabee, is who a fly in the ointment and a bite on the butt of the Republican National Committee, that upstart stole away Iowa. And Ron Paul sits at 9 to 10% in every Primary they hold.

The people in the middle are not repressented by either of the two parties, who are actually only flaps on one huge, one idea tent.

So now there is a downturn in the economy. we are told that it is more necessary than ever to lower the taxes on the corporations and the top elite - so that it can trickle down some more.

Why won't someone say that since we've applied that strategy since Reagan took office in 1981, that if it were gonna trickle it would have done some trickling by now.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

33. The thing that is most infuriating is that they don't even use

the power that they already have, even with a simple majority: the power to VOTE AGAINST the Busheviks' evil proposals and nominees.

They could have voted down FISA.

They could have voted down Kyl-Lieberman.

They could have rejected a whole bunch of nominees (as the Republicans did to Clinton in 1992--confirmation is not always automatic)

But NO-O-O, they had to get all squishy and "biparisan." :banghead:

[Individualist]

40. Even more infuriating

is the fact that some who refer to themselves as progressive voters conform to the "hold your nose and vote" philosophy (look where THAT got us!) and will do so again, thereby encouraging more complicity. As for me, I'll vote for progressives only.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

21. 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'

Howard Beale: You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell,

Howard Beale: 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:
Howard Beale: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

[Psyop Samurai]

25. No administration and no congress will have legitimacy...

...so long as the crimes remain unexposed, unrepudiated and unpunished.

I guess the legal system is not for us peasants, because if it were, we clearly would have the Mother of all class action suits. For starters, we're talking FRAUD and CONSPIRACY on a Biblical scale.

Is there anyone with the capacity to grasp your message who has not suffered severe damage as a result of this criminal enterprise?

[OneBlueSky]

30. Congress' complicity with BushCo makes them just as responsible . . .

for the current state of affairs, including the war, healthcare, the economy, and all the rest . . . it's not longer a question of Republicans v. Democrats; it's now the people v. the corporate/government alliance of power in Washington -- and that encompasses both parties . . .

[Octafish]

31. Spot-on, Bob. We need more good Democrats and fewer turds of all stripes.

If we don't, We the People may soon wake up to find we're not living in the land of the free and home of the brave.

[UTUSN]

34. No, we did NOT vote 60+ majority ENOUGH for real change. n/t

[txaslftist]

35. You're an "activist". They're "leaders".

So Nancy will tell you to STFU.