I'm trying to figure out society's fascination with the male member

[CatWoman]

Straight Story's thread triggered my thinking.

Large, gas hogging vehicles serves as its alter ego. As does big, loud and extreme weapons.

The drug companies go all out flooding the market and the airwaves with drugs to "cure" it when it's broken.

Poor, poor penis. What? can't come to attention? Can't hang in there with your partner? Well, we SIMPLY can't have that!! :sarcasm:

I swear, on any average night, at LEAST 30 Cialis, etc., commercials are broadcast.

Yet, for some reason, it's taboo to actually show said member. Innuendo works just as well or better.

Male nudity is a no-no on the big screen. Small one too.

Yet the same standards are not applied to the female parts. You can see a woman's breasts on television, especially during one of those movies where motherfucker is dubbed out and replaced with motherfincher, or some similar nonsense.

What's up with this shit?

[Syrinx]

1. I've never seen a vagina in a mainstream Hollywood movie, either

:shrug:

[Catch22Dem]

2. Those movies weren't mainstream???

That's it, I'm suing the skinamax people!

[CatWoman]

you haven't?????

[Syrinx]

17. no

I haven't. I've seen female pubic hair, and flaccid penises, but I don't recall ever seeing an actual vagina in a non-porn movie. I do remember seeing an erect penis in one non-porn movie, though I wouldn't call it mainstream. Chloe Sevigny gave some guy a bj in a movie called The Brown Bunny.

[Jed Dilligan]

117. They've added a new category "graphic nudity"

for movies that do show genitalia. In the olden days women had pubic hair and you didn't see their genitals in a frontal nude shot. That was old-school R-rated nudity: pubes but no genitalia. But it's only been in recent years that a few mainstream movies had "graphic nudity." I saw a million r-rated movies (but no x-rated movies) as a kid, but I had no idea what an adult (well, adolescent) vagina looked like until I actually saw one.

[Romulox]

3. I see aggressive female drivers in SUVs every day. I think the SUV = penis is miscontrued.

SUV = bully. Women can be bullies too.

[CatWoman]

10. hah!!!!

listen to who's talking. I saw what you did to Master Shake :rofl:

[Romulox]

20. Nice. You going for that ironic look, or the "look, I don't have any money" look?

B-)

[CatWoman]

21. a new episode comes on Sunday nite

:)

[Romulox]

27. You have great taste!

Both the cat part and the athf part. My tivo is primed for the new aqua teen (the preview implies that the episode won't actually have any aqua teens, btw--just carl and a buncha robots! :wow:

New Reno 911 tonight too!

:toast:

[CatWoman]

37. Carl is DA MAN!!!!

:)

[Rosemary2205]

15. Oh sheesh

The worst aggressive drivers I see in Atlanta are females in the biggest pickups and SUV's made. From what I see every day, the women bullies are A LOT nastier than the man bullies. -- Most of the man bullies I see are in little teeny sports cars switching 4 or 5 lanes in one swift move without looking - double dog daring death.

[TahitiNut]

26. 'Round hereabouts, at LEAST 60% of the SUV drivers are female.

... and half of them are talking on their cell phones ... and half of THEM are gesturing with the other hand!

:wow: :wow:

[Romulox]

33. I live in Dearborn, Mich. Women in Hajibs driving Ford Excursions are a quirky/cool part of the

melting pot here. It's a cool city! :smoke:

I wouldn't say they are particularly aggressive behind the wheel, though.

[Mojorabbit]

41. Same with guns

As a woman with a pretty extensive gun collection, I have never got the penis/gun conection. I am about as non agressive as they come too.

[Romulox]

44. If I ever bring a gun into my home, you can be sure both Ms. Romulox and I will be trained to use it

[juno jones]

4. You noticed that too

K&R for what could be a stimulating topic....


Speaking of full frontal male nudity, Viggo Mortensen is awesome (and quite daring) in 'Eastern Promises'. I like a movie that treats the viewer as an adult.

[monmouth]

5. Hahahaha, I have a feeling this will be a DUzy thread. Everytime

I see that commercial with the nimrod smiling like he's drugged and his "wife" looks the same, I just die laughing. I lived in a senior community a couple of years back (got outta there quickly) and the senior men were getting prescriptions all over the place. I'm talking men in their 70's. Wives were furious, threatened doctors, etc. It was a hoot of enormous proportions (pun intended)....

[Hydra]

6. Our country's love/hate relationship with sex and nudity has to go

It's so overt in certain regards, as you said, and yet it's so taboo to actually see it, do it, speak it.

F***ing country of puritans. I really hate that, some days.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. I believe it's leftover from Paganism

Back when phallic images were representative of male dominion in society. Also it was when being virile meant you would beget many heirs and build a strong nation.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

23. I prefer them without a lot of heirs.

:shrug:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

29. I prefer them clipped

It's the best way to assure there's no new heirs in the future. ;)

[Mojorabbit]

43. Speaking as a pagan

the phallic symbol was given equal time with the goddess symbols. All about fertility of the land.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

54. Sure now.

But when you go back to the time of the ancient Greeks things were a bit different.

[Chovexani]

108. Which Greeks?

Pre-Hellenic Greece was a much different place culturally than what is commonly thought of as "Ancient Greece".

[spanone]

8. humans are the wierdest critters when it comes to sex

it's the most natural thing in the world (birds do it, bees do it) yet we apply all kinds of wierd moral taboos to it.....:shrug: religion i reckon

[AngryAmish]

82. Pooing is perfectly natural too but we don't want to see people do that

If you look into it, most common sexual taboos have perfectly natural evolutionary reasons.

[Djinn]

91. at least Americans do

in most of the western world sex and nudity isn't quite such a big deal

[Blarch]

9. I disagree,.

Your entire post is paranoid propaganda.

[CatWoman]

aieeeeeeeeeeeeee

run for the hills, Ma!!!

:rofl:

[karlrschneider]

30. It's Five Feet High 'n Risin!

:P

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. Hehehe.... Boobies.....

[Rockholm]

12. Show More Penis!

[Ravy]

13. They are fun to play with. nt

[Jamastiene]

104. Play with them long enough and they'll spit on ya.

;)

[Xipe Totec]

14. There's a lot of other products advertised too

granted, the cialis, trucks, SUVs and other male compensatory products are there,

but there's also plenty of feminine hygiene product commercials,

as well as incontinence, regularity, flatulence, heartburn, and toenail fungus commercials.

Why we have to watch these at dinner time, I will never understand.

:shrug:

[CatWoman]

19. how can you equate feminine hygiene

with a broken penis?

[Xipe Totec]

22. Both are private issues, not proper dinner conversation (nt)

[DarbyUSMC]

75. Speaking of dinner conversation:

Good grief. That show on the travel channel with the guy who eats all the gross crap seems to always be on just when I've decided to nourish myself. It takes away my appetite moshkosh. Perhaps it is a new type of diet to turn people off on food. I don't watch it but I'm a flipper so see it for just a few seconds and that's enough to affect the appetite. Mr. Monk would be horrified.

As to your subject matter: the ever popular penis. I admit I'm so annoyed at the erectile dysfunction ads. It may be an inconvenient condition but it isn't MS; Cancer; HIV or any number of serious problems. And what about women who aren't able to function properly? Oh, once in a great while they advertise an oil that will enhance enjoyment. Wooo. It amazes me that with women being raped and killed in obscene numbers in the Congo as well as the human rights messes all around the world; our men and women coming home in coffins etc. that Mr. Mrs. and Ms. American citizen are preoccupied with our entertainment people, erections, diets, fashion, sports, including the steroid "scandal" like that is so important. In addition the campaigns have monopolized the news since way before they needed to and we are inundated with analysis day in and day out. Arrrrgh.

In addition, it's January and it's blah up here. We need some sun.

Stuck in upstate New York, across the lake from Ontario, Canada. I can almost see the light.

[Xipe Totec]

98. And those Paxil commercials make me depressed

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. Well, why not?

What's the big difference? One involves medicine, the other involves toiletries, but I don't see why some people have a problem with either.

We're all adults here, right?

[CatWoman]

36. apples and oranges, Hon.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. Well, yes, boys have penises and girls have vaginas.

But there both genitals, and I'm failing to see a significant difference, at least as far as TV advertising goes.

[CatWoman]

when a woman's vagina is bleeding, it isn't "broken"

and therein lies the difference.

[Syrinx]

52. I don't understand what you are objecting to

It's wrong to advertise something to help a penis get hard, but okay to advertise something to make a vagina smell better, or to quit itching?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

57. I'm still not getting it.

You're saying there should be a stigma attached to impotence?

[Jamastiene]

105. sigh

no, I think she's saying she wants to see more penis on tv. :P

[CatWoman]

113. no, I'm not saying that

I'm saying that there is an OVER ABUNDANCE of tv ads for products address male sexual problems.

and I'm saying that male sexual problems does NOT equal female menstrual problems.

and btw, regardless of what has been implied, there is NOT an over abundance of tv ads for products addressing female menstrual products.

[Thothmes]

121. I don't know about that

Around here it seems that the Cialis commercial follows the Vagisil commercial, just a head of the commercial for Light Days Panty Liners.

[JAbuchan08]

112. You know there's something about refering to erectile disfunction as having a "broken penis"

I don't suffer from ED so I have no personal stake in it, but what if a man were to refer to a womans inability to get aroused as having a "broken vagina?" Wouldn't that be kind of offensive? You'll notice that, though not as widely publicized, there are arousal aiding drugs for women as well.

[stevedeshazer]

16. I like mine, but I've never wanted it shown on my TV or the big screen.

People will pay to see female parts. Very little of the population will pay to see male parts.

Woops, that's a pun I didn't intend to make. :crazy:

[TahitiNut]

18. (...looking...) I'll be damned if I know.

:shrug:

[parasim]

24. I've often wondered the same things, and I have one.

It probably has something do with the patriarchal society we live in. I dunno, maybe ask Freud.

In any case, here's an image I found on the Wikipedia entry for phallus I thought was funny:

[CatWoman]

25. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

[Hekate]

28. Sigmund Freud spent an awful lot of time on that very issue. In this case "society" = "men"....

Little boys are just fascinated with their mini-me, adolescents are fascinated with their little soldier, and apparently a sizeable number of grown men spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about this appendage.

I base this opinion largely on the volume of spam I receive promising to enhance that which I do not have anyway, not to mention the TV commercials. Advertisers don't waste their money on ideas that don't sell.

Hekate

[VotesForWomen]

71. correct; *men* are fascinated with it; listen to a group of guys talk for 30 seconds - it doesn't

matter what the subject matter is, somehow dicks or balls will figure into the conversation. women just don't mention these things quite so often (nor do they mention 'pussies' or 'boobs' as often); i must say that i think that we are just not quite as concerned with these things.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

101. And when I've noticed

that when I've used unisex one-person bathrooms in public places (college libraries come to mind), that there are drawings of male genitals on the walls, or sometimes drawings of naked women. I've never seen such grafitti in an all-women's bathroom, although I have seen requests for advice and true confessions written on the stalls of women's bathrooms on college campuses.

[AngryAmish]

83. Freud was wrong about almost everything

It astounds me people are still discussing what Freud thought of things.

[Hekate]

102. I'm more for Jung, myself, but Freud still has some things to say to us. nt

[nonconformist]

32. The penis has been worshipped for centuries

The ancients were even in love with the beloved cock.

As for the disparity in film nudity, I agree. But, as my husband loves to point out, they don't show women spread open in mainstream film either, and it's comparable.

[CatWoman]

38. but they show plenty of breasts

don't they?

[muriel_volestrangler]

63. Female breasts are secondary sexual characteristics

They're not sexual organs, they're primarily for milk.

[Djinn]

92. yes

and they show plenty of topless men too. breasts aren't genitals.

[Jamastiene]

107. Well, technically, they also show moobs, but

still, more penis on television and more lady butts wouldn't be a bad thing. Why the taboo is something I still don't understand.

[JuniperLea]

70. Now... where was it that I saw peni (plural for penis:)

etched into the sidewalks... ancient Greece? I'm pretty sure they pointed the way to the red light district:)

[BoneDaddy]

119. The ancients were also in love

with the female form, the goddess, the vulva, breasts were all important aspects of fertility and were awe inspiring. Why women feel the need to denigrate the penis speaks to their gross immaturity and irrationality.

[frogcycle]

34. well, if there IS fascination

it is far outweighed by fascination with the female form - any part of it.

methinks maybe thou dost protest too much.

[CatWoman]

39. I have one thing to say to you:

Ribbit

[frogcycle]

90. hey, a frog's tongue

well, you know where I was going with that; I'll just leave it there

ribbit

[VotesForWomen]

74. not really, but who's fascination is that?

[Horse with no Name]

35. In the old days

Men used Harley's as crotch rockets...now they use Viagra.

[Elwood P Dowd]

42. The poor penis has the worst life of any body part.

It has a head but no brain.

It has an eye but cannot see.

It hangs around with a couple of nuts.

It's next door neighbor is an asshole.

It's best friend is a pu$#%.

[Solomon]

122. ROFL!!!

:rofl:

My stomach is cramped from laughing. One of those things you've heard before but forgotten. Thanks man. LOL

[LucyParsons]

45. See "Walk Hard"

There is a flaccid penis shown, repeatedly, and for a total of probably 20 seconds, full frontal.

When we saw it in the theater, my boyfriend (who is the most feminist, untypical "dude" I have ever been lucky enough to meet) cringed and seemed grossed out/ill at ease. I said, "It's about time! They've been showing women full frontal for YEARS."

[JohnnyLib2]

46. Is this thread pro- or anti-Hillary?

There's GOTTA be some code going on here? :evilgrin:

[CatWoman]

50. ROFL!!!

i have to teach you the secret handshake, and mail you the decoder ring :)

[alarimer]

47. I demand equal time.

I am beyond tired of looking at naked women. It doesn't do much for me. It's time we stood for fairness.

I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact that it is mostly men making the ads, television shows and movies. And laws pertaining to this particular issue.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

77. I agree! Just one more good reason to put ...

a woman in the White House!! :evilgrin: Equal rights! :applause:

[ismnotwasm]

48. Penis's don't sell beer.

The sexuality of women, or plaining speaking, the implied increase in the chance of getting laid, is a marketing commodity. That includes marketing for "male enhancement" products.

I hope no one actually fell for those though.

[KG]

49. i'm only fascinated by mine!

it's a beauty!

[Der Blaue Engel]

64. I guess it's not a "min pin"

:hide:

[MiniMe]

51. Well, you know what the dumbest part of a man's body is, don't you?

Its the penis.

It has a head with no brains, hangs around with 2 nuts all day, and lives around the corner from an asshole.





sorry, old joke.

[CatWoman]

53. someone upthread beat you to it

:hi:

[Elwood P Dowd]

55. Stop stealing my old joke!

:spank:

[MiniMe]

58. LOL

Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. I didn't realize somebody else knew that old joke. This is DU, I should have known.

[Elwood P Dowd]

59. You are forgiven.

I've done it myself.

:toast:

[MiniMe]

61. Thank-you

:hi:

[Elwood P Dowd]

67. Did you hear the one about the man from Texas

who struck up a conversation with a man from New York. They were in a bar downing a few beers and the man from Texas was constantly bragging about how BIG everything was down there. When they both went to the john to take a leak, the man from Texas went into a stall and closed the door. The man from New York thought he had him on the size thing so he said, "I though everything in Texas was so big you would want to show it off". The man from Texas said, "Well, I normally would, but after my back surgery the doctor said to not lift anything that weighed over 10 pounds."

[MiniMe]

100. Bwaa Haaa Haaa

Obviously doesn't apply to *

[BoneDaddy]

120. And the dumbest part of a women is her head

See that doesn't feel toO good when women are referred to like you are referring to men.

I do not believe the above sentiment, I just said it to get your attention.

This place is full of men hating women and self loathing men who are so unevolved in their own consciousness that they end up making the same fundamental mistakes they complain about patriarchy. Objectifying and denigrating men has been a huge part of this thread.

Childish, immature and cowardly.

[leftofthedial]

56. "Male nudity is a no-no on the big screen. Small one too."

ESPECIALLY small ones.







Oh. You meant the small SCREEN.

:blush:

[bamacrat]

60. Even if society "worships" it, it's still ugly.

I mean seriously, look at a nude woman in average shape, and then look at a nude man in average shape. Or hell take even the parts themselves, man junk is awkward and hanging there, and weird looking, where as a vagina is very nice looking, smooth and sexy. Maybe thats just me. Plus women have boobs, need I say more?

:smoke:

[Djinn]

93. I'd MUCH rather look at any old penis

than a vagina but - horses for courses

[1monster]

62. I have to laugh at the commercial for the nonprescription one where the guy has the

biggest grin on the golf course...

But, honestly, I get tired of those commercials too.

[Prefer]

65. The phallus is a primal symbol

- Shiva has a representation as a towering flaming lingam


SIVA LINGAM
Ziva(Siva)- -Meaning:-"in whom all things lie";{zizvi}) auspicious,propitious,gracious,favourable,benign,kind, benevolent,friendly,dear,kindly,tenderly)RV.(RV=means Rig Vedam)-happy,fortunate BhP(BhP =(means) Bhagavad Puraanam) happiness,welfare-RV,liberation,final emancipation-"The Auspicious one-"the auspicious"--and to assign him the office of creation, protection and reproduction as well as dissolution;in fact the preferential worship of S3iva as developed in the Pura1n2as and Epic poems led to his being identified with the Supreme Being by his exclusive worshippers;in his character of destroyer (in Siva Aagamas)he is sometimes called "Kaala" = black ' , -and is then also identified with Time(Kaala)"
____________________________________________________________
liGga(Linga)-Meaning=a mark,spot,sign,token,badge,emblem, characteristic-"having anything for a mark or sign")-a proof evidence-the sign of gender or sex, gender;the image of a god,an idol;(in logic-vyApya lingam= the invariable mark which proves the existence of anything in an object (as in the proposition " there is fire because there is smoke ", smoke is the lingam=evidence and fire is the object; inference,conclusion,reason (kAvya-lingam-the inference from a poetic story);{linga zarIram-in Vedanta)="anything having an origin and therefore liable to be destroyed again"--in Medicine Lingam=Specific as in Linga Cinduram)a specific kind of Mercury Preparation used as medicine

http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Number=2277

[The Straight Story]

66. My male member is doing just fine

Or so the wife tells me :)

[Wiley50]

68. I'm a male member of society and no one is facinated with me

Oh wait!

I'm too old for that shit anyway

You know, I've been thinking for several years now

how nice it is to not get dragged into trouble by my own testosterone level

It just makes life so much easier

[rug]

69. You posted this just so you can hear guys talk about their dicks.

[JuniperLea]

72. Great 69th post!

And it only took that many for someone to figure it out... hahahaha!

[CatWoman]

78. HEY EVERYBODY

LET'S ALL TALK ABOUT RUG'S DICK!!!!

Happy now/???? :)

[rug]

84. If you must.

[TahitiNut]

89. At my age, as I go barefoot to the can at night, I'd rather talk about ...

.. Dick's rug. :dunce:

[DemBones DemBones]

73. Rent the French film "Ridicule" -- or wait until

IFC shows it again. A fully erect penis has a sort of cameo appearance when you are not expecting it. My daughter and I fell on the floor laughing about whether it was a stunt penis.

It's an amusing film, even without the penis. It's set partly at Versailles and partly in the countryside, before the Revolution, and is in part about the importance the French courtiers attached to wit, and ridicule, plus sex, of course.

Vive la France!


With all the side effects they list for Cialis, I wonder if the commercials are, um, causing the problem the drug is supposed to cure. :shrug:

[Uncle Joe]

76. You have to be careful even with the breast, just ask Janet Jackson. n/t

[UTUSN]

79. YOU, of all people?! Why didn't you just ASK ME?!1 n/t

[Rex]

80. Oh I can answer that one.

We men are supposed to be 'ready to go' 24/7. Just like war. Never know when you might get to kill/spawn, gotta be ready at all times.

Actually, the truth is it has more to do with embarrassment from other guys than to do with females.

'Haha, Bill can't get it up' and the guy saying it? Dunno, might be ED too. We truly fear a limp dick, like commies or peace on Earth.

[AngryAmish]

81. Phallic symbol is Freudian, and Fruedianism is all bullshit

Virtually every aspect of Fruedianism has either been disproved or is not disprovable and therefore a belief system, not a scientifically valid theory on the way the human mind works.

Give it a rest. Sometimes people just like big trucks. It has nothing to do with compensating for shortcomings in the pants.

[CatWoman]

85. you really are angry, aren't you?

[Hardrada]

87. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

-Frigmund Snoid

[Atman]

97. AngryAmish has 18" wheels on his tricked-out buggy.

:hi:

.

[Evoman]

86. Oh yeah....what about asses?

Naked man asses are everywhere on TV. Even mainstream television (NYPD blue anyone?). They barely ever show women butts on tv. Watch a cartoon....Peter Griffin, Homer Simpson....butts butt butts.

[Jamastiene]

106. Yes yes yes yes yes

Someone finally mentions that there needs to be more female butts on television. If they can show men's butts, then they oughta show some fine lady butt too. :P :thumbsup:

[CatWoman]

114. and all the asses you've mentioned were of overweight men

go figure.....

[Generator]

88. Apparently someone ELSE was pissed off that truck testicle

thread from yesterday was locked. :P (frankly any day you can talk truck testicles is a good day, is it not ladies!)

[Atman]

94. Is this a forbidden sex thread???

'Cuz if it is, I'm going to need to go get another beer...

.

[Ilsa]

95. Harvey Keitel in The Piano in 1993. Her boobs and ass. His member. nt

[Atman]

96. My wife drives an SUV, I drive a compact.

She wears the pants in the family. Which is why she won't let me drive her SUV...something about skid marks on the upholstery.

.

[Fire Walk With Me]

99. I'm certain that if boobies inflated and deflated like the penis, they would be even more beloved.

Just sayin'.

[Jamastiene]

103. Does this explain it a little better?

A cucumber, a pickle, and a penis were all sitting around one day talking about how much their lives sucked.

The cucumber said, "Man, my lifesucks. Whenever I get big, fat, and juicy, someone cuts me up and puts me in a salad."

"So," the pickle looks at him and says, "You think you have it bad? Whenever I get big, fat, and juicy, someone puts me in vinegar, puts spices on me, and sticks me in a jar."

The penis glared at them both and said, "You guys think you have it rough? Whenever I get big, fat, and juicy, they put a rubber tarp over my head, stick me in a dark room, and bang my head against the wall until I throw up and pass out."

:shrug:

[JeanGrey]

109. I beg to differ. Britney's vagina is everywhere, along with

many other starlets. You don't have to look hard to find 'em.

[The Straight Story]

110. I am glad I made you think of penises

:)

[CatWoman]

115. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl:

[Dawggie]

111. Then you haven't seen Viggo Mortenson in Eastern Promises!

Which is a great movie, BTW.

[BoneDaddy]

116. This comes as a surprise to you?

I love these threads where if men said the opposite, they would be slammed. Can you imagine a man ranting about "vagina" like the OP did about the penis?

And I think you have reached the wrong conclusions about many things because you see what you want to see. Men are no more good or evil than women, yet many women ridicule that which is masculine, mocking the penis and insinuating that the vagina is somehow superior.

It is old and childish and does not help in gender relations.

[hedgehog]

118. Wait a minute - you mean I'm not in the Lounge for this thread? nt

[JVS]

123. start with your own fascination. you're the one with 2 threads about penises

Are you channelling Mr. Garrison, famed author of "Valley of the Penises"?