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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:31 AM
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True or false: bush will NEVER be impeached or tried for his crimes.
I say he will get away with it. Why? Because he's gotten away with everything he's ever pulled.

Maybe I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:32 AM
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1. thanks to nancy p. NO!
she repeated it again last week. :grr:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:32 AM
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2. I suspect you are right on this
Although I wish it wasn't so. And I don't think it any of the front-runner presidential candidates will pursue it if they get elected. :(
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:09 AM
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23. if we won't go after them some other country will.
stop them from entering theirs like how France went after Rumsfeld and he ran to the US Embassy. What a coward.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 AM
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3. Congress won't go after him because so many of them are
guilty as well. After he leaves office I would like to see some organizations or individuals outside of government try to hold him to account for crimes, not sure of the legal procedures one would have to go through to do that. My guess would be that congress would try to protect him so we don't fall in to a situation where every president, after leaving office, gets sent off to a war crimes trial.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:47 AM
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15. You have the correct answer! n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 AM
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4. True. They'll walk. One could cite numerous examples, I'd cite Iran/Contra cover up
That was a pretty big cover up, with some two-hundred and fifty or so Reagan/Bushite folk either being investigated or indicted, and one of the key CIA criminals went on from VP to the presidency.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:36 AM
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5. Because he has threatened too many people and they
are afraid. He has made the entire country afraid. :dem:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:33 AM
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32. His threats are empty and meaningless..
without the power of Poppy behind them. If he's as stupid as he appears to be, once Poppy's gone, all bets are off, assuming he makes it that far. He looks old and ragged, even worse than his father, who's got 20 some years on him.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:38 AM
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6. No way, not with ALL of their families' phone calls, emails, and web sites visited recorded!... n/t
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:38 AM
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7. impeached maybe, but not convicted in the Senate.
if he is impeached, my guess it will be after the November election right before he leaves office.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:39 AM
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8. His enemies are all wiretapped
this creep is worse than Nixon
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:44 AM
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13. His enemies and his FRIENDS
dont leave out his friends, thats how they keep them all in line.
tib
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:40 AM
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9. True.
Sad but true.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:40 AM
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10. Moeny talks, money walks because money sticks together...n/t
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:41 AM
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11. True
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:43 AM
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12. True.
Our Democratic "leaders" have shown they don't have the guts or the spine to pursue this despite the overwhelming evidence in front of them. WHY??????
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:47 AM
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14. True; No impeachement, no trial
Ms. Pelosi has made it clear she won't impeach, even though every day brings more reason to do so.

Either they are being blackmailed, threatened (like with the antrax attacks), or are too complicit to risk impeachment.

After the election, the next president will want to "move along", "get over it", or "bring the nation together" by letting the criminals get away. That way, the whitewashing of *'s legacy can begin (look what a great job they're doing with cleaning up Ronnie's image).
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:48 AM
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16. It would be like trying to prosecute a bunch of mobsters.
It could be dangerous and possibly deadly.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:58 AM
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17. *We* Won't Forget
and when they try to glorify him and his presidency, we'll be there to call b.s.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:02 AM
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18. Unless Kucinich becomes president, he won't.
Which means he won't.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:34 AM
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33. Well, it's up to the Congress...
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:00 PM
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37. And since Congress has done nothing but bend over for Bush all the time...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:01 PM by DutchLiberal
...he won't be impeached, he won't be prosecuted. Like his daddy, thanks to Clinton, he will walk free. Just like other criminals like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice, Rove, Powell, Ashcroft, Gonzales and Gates.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:06 AM
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19. Yes And No
No...there won't be an impeachment in the middle of an election. But a post-facto impeachment is another story.

There are still no criminal convictions or even indictments that directly implicate this regime. I hope that's not the case in the future. The corruption of this regime was so widespread...it's abuse of the Constitution so massive that ths political crimes committed will have to be addressed. Conyers has alluded to post-facto impeachment based on a larger Democratic majority in both houses and a Democratic President.

To ensure impeachment we need to get out all the dirt, all the crimes this regime has committed. Unfortunately much of this won't happen until they're removed from office. While I'd love to see the entire cabal indicted now, I also know that any indictments (not just convictions) will be pardoned on 1-19-09.

In the end, history will be the ultimate judge of this regime and of the American people. There's little doubt that boooshie will rank with Hoover, Harding and Buchanan. For all we've seen, I suspect we're only seeing the tip of the iceburg of politicization and corruption. The American people are also being judged for electing this regime and then ultimately how they rectified all the crimes. Some of these can be accomplished in an impeachment, but the ultimate justice belongs in the world court.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:06 AM
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20. my delusional mind says we will get justice here ultimately,,, oops
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:07 AM
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21. Todd Snider had it right
You Got Away With It

(A Tale Of Two Fraternity Brothers)

The tale of two brothers...a memoir
Remember that kid we beat up back in college
Me, you, and Thompson out in front of the frat
And that hippie went home crying to his parents
I can't believe you got us out of that
How sweet was that
God we were drunk
Drove around all night after it with that keg in the trunk
And when the cop pulled us over
You talked us out of that, too

You got away with it
You got away
You get away with
The things that you say

I had to quit partying about a year and a half after you did
I don't regret it though, I think it was fun
Besides, it was the 70's
We were a couple of rich kids
And aside from that one hippie
We never really hurt anyone
Well, there's that other thing that I won't even say
As God as my witness I'll take that to my grave
Cause that was an accident
And you did what you had to do

You got away with it
You got away
You get away with
The things that you say
I worry forever
Never for you
You'll get away with it
You always do

You never did tell me what happened with you and your brother down there in Florida
I heard they gave you a hell of a time
Everybody around here was afraid you might lose
I told them not to worry cause I knew you'd be fine
Had me out here to Camp David a few times over the years
I think the first time we were teenagers sneakin' beers
Look at you now you old son of a bitch
You got the run of this place
Unbelievable

You got away with it
You got away
You got away with
The things that you say
I worry forever
Never for you
You'll get away with it
You always do
You'll get away with
This new thing too

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:08 AM
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22. Probably never impeached. But, one day, perhaps many years from now.
He will receive Justice. Whether it is in War Crimes Court, or a lifetime of running in shame.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:30 AM
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24. Sadly, true
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:39 AM
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25. Congress is complicit. He'll walk. n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:51 AM
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26. They'll walk and many Republicans will then use that as "proof" he did nothing wrong
They already do, just read the freeper boards. "Liberals just hate Bush, if he had actually committed any crimes why hasn't anyone charged him with anything?" Then they'll start renaming airports and office buildings after him.

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:23 AM
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30. Sadly, I think you are correct, the argument will be look
how they got rid of Nixon, if they had anything on him they would have got him.

Not a good argument but it isn't like the people who would use it are rational or logical in their thinking.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:56 AM
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27. He'll never be forced to stand trial in any form.
There will never be a reckoning for bush.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:37 AM
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28. True -- the chances of my becoming president of the US are greater ...
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:39 AM
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29. True.
Redstone
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:31 AM
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31. Maybe after Poppy and Bar are under the ground..
Jeb will throw him under the bus just for kicks. Who knows, a person can dream.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:37 AM
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34. true
this bamd of criminals will not only get away with their crimes, their families will prosper beyond our imaginings.

Upcoming administrations, in thrall to their corporate masters, will ensure that no investigations are done and that all is swept under the rug. If by some miracle anyone is held accountable, it will be a flunky like Scooter Libby and pardons wills ensue.

In another eight or sixteen years, they'll be back with a new generation of fascist thuggery and theft.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:37 AM
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35. True. Obviously true.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:10 PM
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36. .............
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:18 PM
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38. true nt
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