Why is the Dem. response to SOTU by a boring unknown Governor?

[99th_Monkey]

rather than by Senator Dodd or Feingold? where's the fire? weird.

[jlake]

1. I want Biden!

[Muttocracy]

49. was on MSNBC - link here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

[jlake]

51. I saw it. Damn he is awesome.... thats the voice we need now... and hopefully

he will be our next VP.

[annabanana]

2. good question. . Who choses this person?. . .n/t

[99th_Monkey]

10. I was wondering same thing ... this is disgusting & lame

how could the Dems DO THIS???

[cottonseed]

50. Don't dignify Bush with a response to that?

I thought the same thing. Maybe, having the non-rebuttal rebuttal, they just wanted to forget the guy and move on (even though I'd be down for a good ol' impeachment).

[AX10]

3. And put them in front of a progressive Dem audience too!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

4. Why not Biden, Dodd or KUCINICH?

:shrug: MKJ

[99th_Monkey]

15. YES YES & YES ... but please NOT this boring unknown droning on..

If Dems lose in 08 it will be due to this kind of stupid self-defeating lame emptiness.

[Muttocracy]

48. none obedient enough; Biden on MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

[Mojambo]

5. Just caught a bit of it on my way to the bathroom.

What an utterly uninspiring delivery.

How are these things selected?

[99th_Monkey]

32. You can thank Nancy and Harry ...can you say "self-sabotage"? this shit had better not catch on. nt

[TwilightGardener]

6. I just said on another thread, Hillary is a ball of fire next to Miss Kathleen.

[canoeist52]

7. I'm tired of democrats playing it safe

[Wickerman]

8. I'm trying to like her

and listen to what she is mumbling about, but she is more boring than watching corn grow. And hell, I even like corn.

God bless, sleep well.

:eyes:

[Xipe Totec]

9. God, what a disappointment

after all the buildup...

:boring:

[Peregrine Took]

11. I started to listen but I fell asleep - who was she????

[Individualist]

12. Because this is what DLC wants

http://newdemocratsonline.net/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=450015

[99th_Monkey]

19. If Dems lose in Nov. it will be due to this kind of crap. how sad.

[DURHAM D]

She is being promoted as possible second chair for Obama. n/t

[malaise]

13. She was pretty good

She told him that there is a new majority and that he is a lame duck.
I'm betting that she won over millions of Americans with that calm middle-America voice.

Notice that GEMSNBC brings up McCain first.

[Purveyor]

14. I can't recall a more boring, uninspiring response. If even I surfed the channels I can only

imagine that all of those less politically interested left and never came back.

[phillysuse]

16. Kathleen Sibelius will be the VP with

Obama.

[99th_Monkey]

27. You've got to be kidding right?

I can think of 10 people right off the top of my head I'd rather have on the ticket with Obama.... damn.

[csorman]

30. Bullshit.

One sound byte from CNN and the MSM about how she will be endorsing Obama in the coming days and is looking to a VP spot, and there are ALREADY folks thinking she'll be Obama's veep pick. Don't you get how the MSM manipulates this stuff? There is no WAY an uninspiring unknown governor will be picked for his veep.

[xmas74]

39. Unknown?

She's very well-known in most of the middle part of the US. She pulled off a win in Kansas when everything around her was a deep shade of red. She's well-liked for the most part in this area and any candidate smart enough to get her involved in their campaigns will be lucky. In these parts when Kathleen talks people do perk up and listen.

I wish she were my governor, instead of that loser Matt Blunt.

[donheld]

47. She might be well known in Kansas, but

that doesn't mean she's well known anywhere else.

[xmas74]

63. I'm not from Kansas.

I'm actually from Missouri. She's discussed throughout this area and I've heard others from Iowa, Nebraska and Arkansas along with Oklahoma talk about here.

These areas are well-known Republican holds. To have someone like Sebelius speak will get some of the voters interested.

[fishwax]

36. i don't see that happening n/t

[ourbluenation]

17. That boring unknown governor won in redder than red kansas. She's an up and comer to watch. n/t

[karlrschneider]

37. Shit. Her up and comer has got up and went.

:eyes:

[Greyhound]

57. Have you ever wondered why, with 50 choices available, Thomas Frank

chose Kansas as his model?

[NRaleighLiberal]

18. It was not an appropriate response to that trainwreck of a speech!

[99th_Monkey]

21. right on. I agree.. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. Nancy and Reed chose her

It was on their site called the gavel

[99th_Monkey]

23. Well THAT explains it. thanks.. i didn't know who chose her, but now it makes sense

that the same lame Dem. Bush enablers ..ah .. i mean "leaders" chose her.

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. I posted a link today that came from their site.

where they said they had chosen her for the rebuttal.

I'll try to find it.

[OnionPatch]

22. That's what I was wondering?

Her face looked as stiff as a cartoon. Only her mouth was moving! Sometimes I wonder if the Dems don't purposely try to sabotage their public image.

[99th_Monkey]

31. I hope the self-sabotage stops right here, and doesn't continue until Nov. or we're in deeper shit

than we know.

[Wednesdays]

40. Exactly...if they want Dukakis again

They should just bring back the original.

[NoBorders]

24. Not quite a fire in the gut speech. n/t

[99th_Monkey]

28. Not even a spark ... nt

[gratuitous]

25. Governor of a very red state

Who knows? It could at the very least cause the Republicans to have to spend a lot of money they don't really have just to hang on to Kansas. It might also lend the party some credibility in Kansas, and help raise their profile, lending some heart to a state party that's been pretty badly neglected for a while.

[xmas74]

41. It garnered quite a bit of attention today on the news stations

in my area. Kathleen is well-liked around here and recognizing her is "a good thing".

I stated it above and I will state it once again-I wish Sebelius was my governor instead the loser running my state into the ground. (Matt Blunt)

[Greyhound]

58. Oh yeah, those 6 whopping electoral votes (trending downward) is going to make all the

difference.

Constantly appealing to the LCD (lowest common denominator, just in case) only results in ever diminishing expectations until eventually we could end up with an illiterate moran in the White House, oh... wait a minute... shit...

If there is a God, please free the rest of us from the idiots in Jesusland.

[El Pinko]

It's always a boring unknown governor or legislator, right?

I don't know why that's the tradition, but it seems to be S.O.P.

[Cass]

29. As others here have said, Biden would have been an awesome choice.

Not sure why dems are scared to show a little fire in the belly.

[99th_Monkey]

33. Yes. Biden, Dodd, Feingold, Kenney, .. someone with some fire and wit. damn poor choice.

thanks again to Nancy and Harry .. that's who chose her.

[bluethruandthru]

35. I think they're worried

about offending anyone....you know, we need to play nice...reach across the aisle..all that bullshit.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

34. Here's the thing. I agree with everything she said. She knows her stuff!

Good for her!

:applause:

[karlrschneider]

38. Unfortunately, you and 73 other people were the only ones who noticed.

...

[Kansas Wyatt]

42. Well, there you go....

Just from looking at all the posts, with the exception of a few, you now can clearly see why the Democratic Party loses rural America.

In case all of you brilliant political strategists haven't noticed, she just picked up a lot of support from Republicans who are sick of the shit that has wrecked this country. Without that, you only get more of nitpicking and obstruction to the direction the Democratic Party wants to take the country.

All of you bitch about how stupid Red States are, but you need those to get what you want. Someone makes the effort to change that, handing you what you want, and you ridicule her for it. Now I know it looks so much more prestigious to jump on a desk and call a little piece of shit a lying SOB, piss & moan about the last 7 years, and sling a bunch of cursing directed at Chimpy. You just might consider that everyone knows that by now, and they are looking for politicians to actually get something done, instead of fighting all the time. She was not speaking about what is going to happen tomorrow, because we all know Chimp isn't going to do shit to work with Democrats, she was setting the stage for the Chimp's exit with a new Demcratic majority leading the way.

[TwilightGardener]

43. Hey, I live in Nebraska, and that was fucking boring by NEBRASKA standards.

Just being a Dem in a red state does not confer you with some sort of super-duper political prowess. More often, it's a case of blandness, compromise and triangulation. See Nelson, Ben, former Gov of Nebraska and my current Senator.

[depakid]

44. Because that's the nature of the party "leadership"

They've basically become "also rans" who've worked tirelessly over the past 15 years to assure that traditional Democratic values- and the party itself become irrelevant in the policy arena.

[ladjf]

45. Pelosi and Reid.

[Neshanic]

46. Exhibit A. Why I worry about our chances this election. WHO picked her to do this?

I really never heard of her, and I am sure she is a good Democrat, but COME ON!

Get someone up there to fire people up, not make the monkeys speech look like a masterpiece.

God help us.

[jmainer]

53. Shooting ourselves in the foot with complaining

One of the problems that Democrats and liberals have had for years has been always seeing the dark side; what's wrong with someone or something and banding together to fight against ideas instead of standing up for ideas.

Go ahead and criticize me for writing this. I don't care.

This thread has made me angry. Instead of complaining about how boring she was, why hasn't any of this thread been about the substance or tenor of her rebuke?

I found her calm manner to be refreshing. And I was pleased that she appealed to a higher vision of non-partisan politics.

You, who are reading this, who may be Obama backers, must see that he is appealing to the same higher cause. He is by far the better speaker, that much is obvious. But the bottom line is that most Americans are sick to death of partisan politics, infighting and just plain ol' impoliteness.

If the Dems are to win in November, inclusiveness will be a big reason. So, let's stop our bickering and whining!

[Muttocracy]

54. much of the disagreement is also on substance

cooperation with Bush - compare to Biden saying Bush is AWOL from reality, completely out of touch with the true state of the union and the situation in Iraq.

[Ichingcarpenter]

55. Well, for idiots that don't know better then this Bipartisanshit

might work.

If we continue this path we will move like a turtle on a fence-post.

[Orangepeel]

52. I know who she is.

:shrug:

[Jamastiene]

56. OH.DEAR.GOD.

What fucking disaster of a 2012 candidate are we "grooming" now. That's gotta be it. In the words of Legs McNeil, "Please kill me."

[goodgd_yall]

59. Boring as dirt.

(picture of saw cutting wood)

[oasis]

60. Liddy Dole, Sibelius. Is the Stepford Wives factory located in Kansas. (eom)

[ThomWV]

61. Shit, are you kidding? They want to run her in the VP slot. She's from Nebraska and she's a Dem.

[ReverendDeuce]

62. I agree. We shut her off after about two minutes...

It was utterly pathetic.

[RestoreGore]

64. Sorry, but I have to agree. Can't they at least pick Democrats who have pulses?

or are they afraid the media will call them angry?