still_one
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Tue Jan-29-08 06:31 AM
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Polls say people say the economy is the most important issue. HOW DARE THEY!!! |
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Because of the United States we have invaded a country BASED ON LIES
How many people are dead because of our country's actions, and we are little bit bent out of shape because we are paying too much for gasoline, or food.
That is NOTHING compared to the death and destruction we have caused in Iraq
It is still hard for me to fathom that we invaded a country based on lies.
The killing stopped in Viet Name AFTER WE LEFT
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Tue Jan-29-08 06:42 AM
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1. The republicans really are getting a pass on the illegal war in Iraq |
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Al Qaeda is influencing the elections by not attacking right now. No death and destruction, the republicans shut up about the war, and the MSM gives the republicans a pass only helps the republicans.
Now a major issue that should bury the republicans and clearly show the Democratic candidate to be superior is allowed to float away in the wind.
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:01 AM
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5. If anyone looked, the Taliban are re-emerging in Afganistan |
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I agree the repukes are getting a free pass, and much of that IS DUE to the media is essentially not reporting it
I do not believe AQ is trying to influence the elections by not attacking. If they could do it, AQ would attack. The first world trade center attack took years to put into place, and 9/11 occurred because the morans running this country ignored the Rudman/Hart report which told them what was needed
Hopefully, November will bring a Democratic executive branch, because there is NO HOPE that we will get out of Iraq under a republican
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Tue Jan-29-08 06:46 AM
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2. While the war is bad, the economy affects people here more directly. |
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People who have loved ones in the war are more affected, but the situation we face with the economy is dire. There are a good number of people out there who are faced with the prospect of foreclosure, long-term unemployment, and even homelessness.
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:11 AM
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6. No, we are ALL affected by that war, and it has an economic impact also |
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You say that those people who have loved ones in the war are more affected, but the actions of that war have caused the untold suffering that WE are responsible for.
bush is asking for ANOTHER 70 billion dollars for that war. What do you think that 70 billion dollars could do here
Much of the economic situation can be directly laid at the footsteps of the Iraq war, from the instability it has created in the region which have caused higher energy prices, which in turn cause everything else to go up
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Tue Jan-29-08 06:51 AM
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The killing stopped in Viet Name AFTER WE LEFT
As a veteran of that war, I can tell you that as bad as it was while we were there, the real killing STARTED after we left. The communists PURGED the south of anyone and everyone who, directly, indirectly or just on suspicion, supported the south vietnamese government. Hundreds of thousands or more. They had their own "killing fields"..
Comments like yours lead me to believe you think everything was roses after we left. I can only suggest you read some history on the subject..
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:19 AM
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7. We had NO business in Viet Nam period. That war was also based on a lie |
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Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 07:46 AM by still_one
Ever hear of the Gulf of Tonkin?
When we took over from the French we setup the basis for what was to subsequently occur.
I lost a few friend in that screwed up war.
We had no business their in the first place
and by the way, when we eventually leave Iraq, there will also be a bloodbath of sectarian violence between the Shia and the Sunni
We should have never invaded Iraq in 2003
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:54 AM
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11. How many would have died if we never went into Viet Nam? /nt |
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Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 AM
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16. That is bullshit propaganda |
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There was very little killing in Vietnam. Yes there was some but the killing took place in Cambodia and Laos. I have several Vietnamese friends that lived there during those times and what you are spouting is just plain western propaganda bullshit..When the North took over they did round up some high officials of the South Vietnamese government but village leaders and common villagers did not suffer in the least except financially. That was a shock to them..
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Tue Jan-29-08 06:53 AM
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Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 06:54 AM by spoony
How about because they're suffering? It's like saying how dare a person on fire be so selfish as to be focused on their own problems. People are losing their homes. Their jobs. Their shirts. How dare they? How dare you tell them a war they had nothing to do with should top their imminent survival in their minds and consciences. And who says the war ISN'T important to many of them? It may not be the biggest slice of the pie but that doesn't mean they don't want the soldiers home and the Iraqis to have back their country.
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:21 AM
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8. How much do you even hear about the war from the news? |
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Afganistan is even less talked about
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:52 AM
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9. Because people are self-centered |
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unless they or a loved one went over to Iraq, it is just a place they've heard about, and then not that often (the corporate masters learned from Viet Nam--black out on the war). But the economy hits them hard-here and now.
But don't despair. One reason we're in this mess IS Iraq. Once you educate folks to that fact, their eyes can be opened to the illegality of it all.
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:54 AM
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10. The point I was also trying to make is that much of our economic problems are a result of Iraq |
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Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 07:57 AM by still_one
The resources that we are spending their, could be put to better use here, job creation, education, etc
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:56 AM
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perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Once people are hurting, you can get their attention as to the reason why, which is Iraq. THEN they start paying attention.
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:58 AM
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Tue Jan-29-08 07:59 AM
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14. since the democrats funded it, they will inherit it....it;s our illegal war now |
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Tue Jan-29-08 08:18 AM
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People vote their pocket books. We went from an advisory roll in Viet Nam to the major combatant force is less than a year based on a lie. The fact that it was done in Iraq, shouldn't really be hard to fathom. The only killing that stopped when we left Viet Nam was the killing of Americans, the Vietnamese were not so fortunate.
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Tue Jan-29-08 09:32 AM
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17. I've been waiting so long for people to get pissed about *anything*, I'll take this. |
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Should they have been more pissed off about the war? Sure. That and many other things.
But at least the people are getting pissed, and the White House knows it, and the leadership is beginning to see it and know it.
I'm just happy we're pissed off about something.
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