The Old Guard vs. the New Guard ?

[kentuck]

There is a struggle within the Democratic Party, as much as there is within the country. The Republicans are running with the status quo. They want to continue the war in Iraq and the deficit spending and the large taxcuts of George W Bush. They only give lip service to "change". They are out of touch with most of America.

The Democrats have two very strong and attractive candidates running for the Presidency. It is difficult to argue that Hillary Clinton is not part of the Old Guard. She is running on a return to the good ol' days of the 1990's. Most voters remember those days as perhaps the best in our lifetimes, in regards to peace and prosperity.

However, Barack Obama is running on the need for change. He says that we cannot return to the past - not even the good ol' days of the 1990's. He is representative of the New Guard of the Democratic Party. He says we "cannot build a bridge back to the 20th century". The voters are about to make an historic decision.

[Kittycat]

1. I have to agree.

[MoJoWorkin]

2. I have a foot in the old guard (I am 62 yrs old) but my heart goes

with the New Guard! I have decided to bring that foot out and walk forward with my head and my heart. For the sake of my daughters and new granddaughter I choose hope and a new direction, as I did when I was young, for Jack Kennedy in the 60s.

It is time for a New Generation of leadership. It is time for Obama!

[PATRICK]

3. The voters

en masse are not going to hear Obama's message more than they know already about the safety and security of the good old days. The emotional weight behnd the choice very likely rests there as an incumbency of loyalty. To this is added the considerable women's base which has been expecting and accepting a Hillary run for many more years.

Obama is giving it an historical shot but I think he is up against too much than can be combatted by what people hear from a few speeches, ads or endorsement. He was catapulted by so many hearing his convention speech in 2004 which was repeated and reprinted everywhere. He is trying to move a mountain and not merely win a rookie of the year, better luck next time youngster, second prize.

This is very very very hard. He is trying a brilliant mix of caution and boldness and strategy soaring on his natural skills. I think we have to remember that after you remove the blame for this or that if it doesn't succeed, nothing matters so simply as the very embedded support of Hillary Clinton which includes all the establishment support as well- all tied to Bill's presidency. I hope there really is no bitterness. Edwards did not just get ground to inconsequence in a media circus between the other two. Neither he no Obama could easily sway the primary electorate away from this rooted advantage. I should think they would need massive media favorable bias to even dent it and although the media was wrecking things they were constantly giving an assist by trashing Hillary to keep the game going.

I thought just maybe two defeats just might awaken a glimmer of something new. Yet they are as undiscussed and unfaced as 9/11 especially by the party politicans themselves. Now they can reap their own fear which I am positive still avoids the newfangled e-voting machinery as a sideshow to their centrist electoral problems. All that needed to be done, as with Gore in 2000, was the simple decision of a good candidate to follow this bedrock destiny without looking too hard at the price WE have to pay in the fall. I cannot fault Hillary for doing what so many fine Dems have done before her. Destiny. Is it even a choice like we pretend it to be or a trap of our fixed beliefs ignoring reality?

If Obama and any politics and speechifying can change that more power to him. In fact it would be awakeningly miraculous. I will grant that maybe a deeper change will win at this particular stand. If not we get to drag this inertial weight again in November- or into the WH. It would be in the interests of all progressives to get people moving no matter what choice they make.

[Harkpark]

4. True

Get out the vote :)

Who be more successful :)

Which of the 2 will be able to bring hoard of new voters to help win all those contested seat in congress and senate :)

Simple question haha

But hey even read cause this Obama guy got many Republicans voting for him then he must be a Republican haha. Wonder why they like him and not their own nom. :+

Must be bush magic I say haha

Whats the damn noise .... ooooh many young donkeys braying "Yes We Can , Yes We Can "
Hey where they going ..... ooooh to the machine to vote hahaha

Stupid dumb Obama magic guess he is going to charm all those new voters and bring them to the voting booth.

Ok chimp me give you top credit for this obama magic too. You sucks so bad that you chase you own party member to the otherside.

You suck so bad Americans crawling out from under rock to vote. Americans holding breath so long they all turning blue :rofl:

[kentuck]

5. Welcome to Kuala Lumpur!

peace.

[Harkpark]

6. Hey ......

I am in Kuala Lumpur.

[kentuck]

7. Welcome to America!

via Internet. :-)

[Harkpark]

8. Be here until the election hey

Watching DUer smashing each other with my choice better than your choice.
Guess troll having fun time