McCane is the best Republican to run against.

[originalpckelly]

The other side hates him, you think they're going to show up at the polls for him?

He's not a governor. Governors have the mantle of executive experience behind them, let's remember that all of the democratic Presidents after the sixties (what two of them there were) were governors. Indeed, Republicans have either been VPs or governors since that time. Bush II= governor, Bush I = VP, Reagan = governor, Ford = VP, Nixon = VP. This whole gubernatorial air of experience will be negated against either of our Senators running. This won't be the case if any other candidates run, Romney and Huckabee fall in to the governor category. Of course Ron Paul falls into the no-chance-in-fucking-hell category.

If McCane runs, his record as a Senator will come up every time he tries to BS that he's a "real" Republican. It's called flip-flopping, and I'm not talk about some kinky thing people do at pools. If he talks tax cuts, then he'll be challenged on voting against the Bush cuts.

And let's talk about the most important thing, this guy has the Bob Dole boring-ass motherfucker act going on. Candidates for insomnia must first listen to a McCane speech in order to be verified insomniacs. This guy is not safe for children under 5, like most other over the counter sleeping medications.

And then there's the whole thing with Iraq. Senator McCane is wrong on Iraq, it's the wrong policy. It doesn't matter how well it is spun, telling a foreign people what form of government they will have is no different that what the British did to us before we declared our independence. It goes against the very idea of democracy that people rule themselves. This is not going to work out in the long run, the people of Iraq do not have the pre-requisite understanding of the golden rule, or rather, the ethic of reciprocity, to live in a democracy. These people are well armed and pissed off. One of the main reasons we've seen a drop in violence, is that al-Sadr told his troops to stand down for six months in August. That order will be ended soon (around the end of February), and we cannot know what to expect. We can only hope that magically in the last year or so the Iraqis have decided to play nice, but I doubt it.

[DS1]

1. Are you calling him McCane on purpose, or have you just not seen his name

a few hundred thousand times?

[Virginia Dare]

4. I like McCane..

it brings up an image of an old person. Who cares if anybody spells a repubs name correctly or not?

[originalpckelly]

16. It was quite intentional.

[originalpckelly]

13. I think it should be obvious that his decrepitness is only properly spelled McCane.

[bpeale]

2. neither of the dems can beat McCain polls show

[Zynx]

5. You interpret early polls far too seriously. By the same logic we would have had a president Dukakis

[bpeale]

10. well, in my experience, refusal to adjust your thinking for reality

generally is disappointing. but you keep on refusing to. the dems will lose in november.

[Zynx]

18. And you know this based on....what?

[Virginia Dare]

11. It's way too early to call that yet..

can you see old man McCain up onstage next to Obama? I think even Hillary would take him handily in a debate. Plus, I think either Hillary or Obama will spank him on fundraising.

[Zynx]

3. Romney is so much easier to beat.

Romney has absolutely 0, and I do mean 0, cross-over appeal. He has no appeal to rural conservatives. He is viewed as nothing short of a heretic by many Christian conservatives. He has taken more positions than the Kama Sutra.

[Virginia Dare]

9. What do you mean no crossover appeal?

Didn't you see him gettin jiggy wit it with those young black kids?:rofl:

[still_one]

6. You are underestimating how the media is painting him as a moderate

HE IS NOT, but if that message gets out to the independents, we are in trouble

It must be made LOUD and clear where mccain stands on the issues, and that is not easy because the media IS NOT OUR FRIEND

[Virginia Dare]

12. The right already hates him..

if he runs to the center he further alenates his base. He's in a tough situation all around.

[still_one]

20. but he may gain the independents /nt

[Virginia Dare]

23. Not with Obama in the race IMO..

they'll split the Independent, and possibly not even with Hillary if women come out for her. If it's Hillary and McCain, there is no way McCain is not going to come off as a sexist ass at some point, and that will piss women off bigtime.

[originalpckelly]

14. All that matters is that his own side hates him...

he could be the great "conservative" but no one will care because they think he's a prick.

[Virginia Dare]

17. For good reason too...n/t

[still_one]

21. Then why do the polls for the general election indicate it is very close? /nt

[Drum]

7. Never forget,

nor let the voters forget, this:

[NewJeffCT]

8. Our top two candidates are senators as well

so, neither has executive experience.

Polls have McCain beating Obama & Clinton as well.

The media loves him.

[originalpckelly]

15. That's the idea, they have an inherent disadvantage against a governor.

[still_one]

22. that could be argued, since mccains experience hasn't been stellar /nt

[alphafemale]

19. McCain last night seemed like a crazy, old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.

And his lawn looks like this.

[still_one]

24. To you and me, but unless the media is going to do a Dean on him

nobody will focus on that