Why are some of you eagerly defending McCain?

[ecstatic]

We can't go easy on him just because he was a POW. If his judgment was somehow compromised during that time then the last thing we need is for him to be leading this nation!

In the '70s, when McCain made his racist statements about Asians, and http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/008013.php">betrayed his wife (who stood by his side while he was a POW) for a rich young lady, McCain was over 40 years old.

Furthermore, when he made his http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html">vile comments about Chelsea Clinton (who was a young teenager at the time), he was 61 years old.

People are not aware of this side of McCain. We need to make sure that Independents find out who the REAL McCain is.

He is now 70+ years old, and I have a feeling his judgment has only gotten worse with time.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Keating 5. nt

[TwilightGardener]

2. Apparently one episode of courage and endurance, almost 40 years ago, buys you

immunity for the rest of your life, no matter how awful you become or how terrible your leadership would be for the country. I think there's a natural caution in taking off the gloves against someone who served and suffered, but we need to fucking get over it, or we're going to lose.

[ecstatic]

16. Exactly. Unlike repigs, we don't need to go after his actual military service record

I respect his service. My concern is the way he has conducted himself since retiring. And I'm not going to give him a free pass *just because* he served. Those are two separate issues.

[Winterblues]

25. What courage, he did what the NVA wanted him to do

He made a tape recording for them and other stuff. Yes he was tortured and the US government forgave him for cracking because of it, but the fact remains he did do the NVA's wishes...

[maxsolomon]

3. i ain't.

besides the fact that he's presenile, he CHEATED on his 1st wife with his 18-year younger current wife, who has been ADDICTED to DRUGS.

and we all know that 'murkins can never forgive that. if they ever hear about it.

[Red Zelda]

4. Keep it coming on McInsane

Anyone defending this boneheaded mad bomber is crazy. He is WORSE than Bush.
His POW history gets him undue admiration when, in fact, he is a disaster when it comes to domestic issues, futuristic thinking and progressivism.

This man is fucking dangerous. Add to that his age and mental instability.
FUCK McINSANE TO HELL.

[Red Zelda]

6. And has this dipshit or any of his ancestors

EVER had a private-sector, for-profit job???

[roguevalley]

11. the surge is slipping and that is all he has. he is history soon.

and his own side hate him.

[Virginia Dare]

13. I'm convinced he won't be able to hold it together..

until November. Unless they put him on the same cocktail that the chimp's on.

[roguevalley]

14. i agree. he's a hair trigger.

[MADem]

5. These "generic" posts that talk about "some people" are a real hoot.

Who are all these people doing all this defending?

Why don't you ASK them in the threads where the posts are, instead of posting this shitty general innuendo that suggests there's a massive McCain insurgency here? You don't actually expect people to reply to you, do you, with specific reasons why they just LOVE McCain?

What's the point of your post?

And that first picture, with that caption, is pretty classy---NOT.


You should remove it while you still have time to edit.

[LSK]

7. who the hell is defending McCain???

WHERE?

[TwilightGardener]

8. Some defend his use of the term "gooks".

edit to add: they say that his use of the term isn't racism and just means that he's still very angry about Vietnam, but that shouldn't stop him from being President.

[MrCoffee]

21. that is pure BS

they said they understood why he would say it. not that they thought he was right, or that they agreed with him, or that they liked him better for saying it, or that it's his right as an American to free speech, or any other defense of the comment. just that they could understand why he would say it.

horseshit. you're soaking in it.

[Virginia Dare]

23. No, I disagree.

some said he's not racist. I just don't understand how you make a statement like that but not be considered racist. Clearly he harbors some racial hatred.

[Djinn]

28. or possibly he's like

my mate's dad who's not racist at all but spent a few years ONLY hearing Vietnamese referred to as "gooks" - occasionally it still slips out.

My 98 year old grandmother refers to "coloured" people, is she a virulent evil racist or a product of her time?

[TwilightGardener]

29. Are these people in the Senate? Running for President? Held to a higher standard?

[Djinn]

30. they're human beings

I tend to hold them (and politicians) to THAT standard. I don't expect my politicians to be more or less "moral" than the people they represent.

Sorry I don't view this is an issue worth spending time on - I don't give a shit whether the next President is "mean" or nice, makes little difference to those shot by US bullets.

[TwilightGardener]

31. I give a shit whether the next President can keep his hatred and bitterness

under control, rather than display it to the world with a nasty slur against a broad group of people.

[TwilightGardener]

24. They defended it, and said it shouldn't stop him from being President.

Some of us feel differently. I feel that publicly using racial slurs, like "macaca" or "gook", as a Senator and a Presidential candidate is highly inappropriate and demonstrates a lack of self-control no matter what one's experiences were in life. Some don't see it that way. Oh well.

[Virginia Dare]

9. He earned the "right" to be an asshole don't you know?

musn't smear him because he's a "war hero".

:sarcasm:

[DiamondJay]

10. don't forget his illegitimate kid

or the fact he gave cover and secrets to our enemies in Vietnam.

[Virginia Dare]

12. He's a fucking traitor just like Kerry!

he hates America just like Max Cleland. Mine was :sarcasm:, assume yours was too.

[ecstatic]

15. I would never bash his military service. I'm concerned with

his judgment and abilities now. Would he be a compassionate, thoughtful president? All signs point to no.

[Virginia Dare]

17. Totally agree..

I think some people are missing that point.

[DiamondJay]

19. WE shouldn't bash it...

but i sure hope Rush Limbaugh and his allies do during the general. From what I hear, theyd almost rather Hillary win and face her in '12 than now.

[Virginia Dare]

20. I'd be down with Rush doing the dirty work...

if they want to take that chance, so be it.

[AndyTiedye]

18. Does Anyone on DU Actually LIKE McCain? I Haven't Seen That

A lot of us are AFRAID of McCain. We are afraid that our candidates cannot beat him, and we are afraid of what he would do as President.

[Virginia Dare]

22. Rove had no problems with him...n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Because they're racists too?

Honestly, there's no good reason to defend that shit.

[Djinn]

27. better make sure no-one over 70 votes

after all, their judgement is a bit screwy. Also no former POW's or anyone who's been subject to intense psychological and physical pressure because their judgement may have been warped during that time.

Also we should definitely make sure no-one who's made a narky remark is allowed to vote because we wouldn't want such abhorent vile people choosing the govt.

The names thrown at Ann Coulter and the Bush twins here are far worse than what McCain said about Clinton.

Stop grasping at pathetic straws like this - DU has been wall to wall with patehic stories about snubs and handshakes and meanies calling Chelsea a fug and precious little about POLICIES.