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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 PM
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Must-read Rolling Stone piece on why the Dems won't end the war

The Chicken Doves

Elected to end the war, Democrats have surrendered to Bush on Iraq and betrayed the peace movement for their own political ends


Up now in Editorials.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=336826&mesg_id=336826

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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:40 PM
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1. Excellent article
Every Senator and Congressman/woman who refuses to cut off funding for Iraq war has blood on their hands and is partly responsible for the human wreckage at Walter Reed!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM
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2. "Excellent" in the sense of making you want to vomit.
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:44 PM
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3. Yes, depressing because it's true
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:49 PM
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4. Love your sig line.. ummm 80% obama... I'm kinda like that.. but
I don't even have that much % for any of the remaining two.. Thank God FL voted and it doesn't count.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:01 PM
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5. I'm just hoping I don't have to add another line
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:46 PM
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6. The consulting firm mentioned in the article?
Hildebrand Tewes, the ones who are coaching Dems on how to appear they're against the war without actually doing anything?

Obama's top consultants.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:48 PM
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9. Ugh, I did not want to hear that
I've had enough trouble holding my nose to support one of the remaining two candidates. Stuff like this just makes me want to give up.

OK, I'm putting my fingers in my ears now. La la la la la!

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:37 PM
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12. I am SO not surprised
I think I'll have a heart attack and die from NOT being surprised.

This is the mother of all "anti-war-but-not-doing-anything-substantial-to stop-it" stories.

That Obama is part of it - color me anything but shocked.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:50 PM
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7. k&r! nt
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:54 PM
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8. The republicans infiltrated the democratic party many years ago, with the likes of Lieberman
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:51 PM by GreenTea
and the many republicans who run as democrats and ALWAYS vote republican....their bullshit excuse, ah.... "I'm a Democratic Moderate" or a "Conservative Democrat" (DLC) - Bullshit!

They are republicans helping control the Democratic party! And they nominate & vote for weak assholes like Reid! With the corporations money, along with the republican fascist, control the democratic party.

Why not, it makes perfect sense for the corporate wealthy republican party. The republicans "Think Tanks" knew very well by owning & controlling the media, infiltrating the democratic party, giving the Dem whores corporate millions in donations....the republicans would have no real opposition to their imperialism & fascism....and the republican owned electronic voting apparatus, in place in over 80% of the country will assure fascist control for many years to come.

Fucking Reid the wimp has been perfect for the republicans as a do nothing, easy to walk over and allowing the repugs to control the Dems....

The republicans knew what they were doing when they needed a weak Democratic minority leader, then behind the scenes made sure it would be Reid.....AND the big bonus for the republicans, Reid has been an even a bigger wimp-turd as Dem majority "leader".

Now, the republicans got the democratic nominees they wanted to run, and everyone will say, NO....no, not true... it just happened that way...........Right!

(However, the republicans may have bit off more than can chew, with Obama. Still, it remains to be seen until who the republican influence get to come out on top at the democratic convention).
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MJJLWolf2 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:11 PM
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10. Nancy Pelosie is a failure.
She did nothing for this country.

She deserves to step down and let someone with balls take over the country.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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11. Not by her measure. She did exactly what she set out to do.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:35 PM by jgraz
Keep the war going so they can use it as a campaign issue in '08.

Mission Accomplished.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:43 PM
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13. The top Power Brokers never inteneded to end
the US Occupation of Iraq. They paid lip service to it to pacify the Peace Mongers.

The Repug & Dem Leaders want to maintain the US Occupation.
They want to keep the Fiasco going to finalize that Oil Deal. The Repugs & Dems are afraid that they will be blamed if they force the end of the US Occupation and Iraq goes down the tubes, the Oil goes to other countries, & Iran gains major control in the ME.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:44 PM
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14. How many of them have Al Yamamah bank accounts?
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