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Wed Feb-13-08 02:54 PM
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The far right is totally out of power. What a victory! |
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I was sitting here this morning thinking that the far right has no candidate to represent them in the next Presidential election. McCain will try to make overtures, but both he and they know that he doesn't really share their extreme agenda. This is a historic moment, a giant swing in the pendulum, and they have already lost. No matter how the election goes from here on out, they can't regain the power they held during the Bush administration. The far right can't impose their super-conservative morals on the Federal government any longer. McCain, aside from being a maverick, doesn't share most of their values the way Bush has, and is notorious among them for doing what he thinks is right, not what they think is right.
Their hopes sank with the Bush ship-of-state of the rocks of Iraq, and other displays of incompetence by the born-again chief of state. Hubris, indeed. This is a victory over regressive tendencies in America that have dominated this country for the last eight years.
This is the big story, more than Obama, Hillary, or McCain. This far right power bloc has lost it's power.
Finally!
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Wed Feb-13-08 02:59 PM
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1. There is still the VP nomination |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:22 PM
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6. The VP only has the power the President gives to him |
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Traditionally, it is a post with no power.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:25 PM
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hello! they seem to have broke with tradition during the last 8 years!
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:30 PM
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14. you think McCain would give a lot of power to a fundamentalist? |
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I don't.
Bush was all about putting the like-minded Cheney in that spot.
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Wed Feb-13-08 07:32 PM
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it was cheney that nominated himself!
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:01 PM
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2. Then how in hell are they tromping the Constitution into the Fucking ground over at the Capital? |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:02 PM
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3. We should never be cocky or complacent about this election. |
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McCain can still win the entire thing if he chooses a VP that will bring in the evangelicals.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:24 PM
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7. oh, I agree with you, but McCain is not far right. |
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It is possible that McCain can win it, but he is not their choice at all.
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:09 PM
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29. No, and unfortunately, the far-wrong is NOT out of power by ANY means! |
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As long as they walk the earth, they'll finagle some sort of power, either overt OR covert. They still exert a tremendous amount of influence over all the power positions in Washington and the statehouses, and, worse - the media.
When we finally rid ourselves of limbaugh and his many clones, and somehow manage to hobble such wrong-wing rats' nests as the American Enterprise Institute, the Hoover Institute, the Cato Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and those other "think tanks" (plus the ultra CONservatives like the mellons and the scaifes and the hunts and the basses and the devoses/princes and other major-league financiers AND Pox Noise, ONLY THEN will we see the far-wrong out of power. As long as they breathe, they flex muscle. Usually because there's money involved.
Sadly, we'll probably never be completely rid of them.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:05 PM
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The repubes have just as much chance of winning this year as they did in '02 and '04.
Even as a minority in congress, they are still imposing their will on us as evidenced in the vote yesterday.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:25 PM
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8. The only way they can win is to cheat. |
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Really. McCain is the best they can offer and half the Repugs hate him. We can win it all this year, the question is whether the Dems will grow a spine or continue to allow the Repugs to walk all over them.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:38 PM
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in congress already have a spine - the problem is there are so few of them. The others are owned by the repubes.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:26 PM
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10. I was talking about the far right part of the Republican party. |
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which McCain certainly does not represent. He also has a history of bipartisan cooperation, unlike the current Administrations record of cutting out anyone who is not Republican.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:41 PM
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21. He's been pandering to the far right since |
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he first got the idea of running in'08. If he wins in november, the pandering will get worse so he can be re-elected in 2012.
I wish I had the optimism you have, I just can't seem to muster it after so many Dems sold us down the river yesterday.
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:02 PM
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25. how did the Dems sell us down the river yesterday? |
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:15 PM
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30. Senate voted for telcom immunity. n/t |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:05 PM
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5. They still own the justice department |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:27 PM
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11. but they won't, as one set of political appointees replaces another |
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the changes happen with every administration.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:28 PM
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12. Washington is still loaded with neocons. |
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They're everywhere, and they need to be purged. The only way to make a dent in it is through investigations/impeachments/indictments/imprisonments. It's not happening.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:31 PM
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16. Neocons lose their appointments at the end of the administration. |
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McCain is unlikely to re-appoint them, should he win the office.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:39 PM
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20. But they don't go away, nor are they discredited |
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They take teaching positions and breed more of their ilk. They take consulting positions. WORST OF ALL, they will be become lobbyists. They are career political criminals.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:55 PM
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24. Gone away or not discredited, they lose the levers of power. |
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and that is a victory of major proportions.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:28 PM
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13. McCain can fill the Supreme Court with wing nut judges and all federal benches. |
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That's all the right needs. The stack the courts then bring in cases to turn the tide of the cultural war to their favor.
I would not count them out. Like a rattle snake, even after you cut the head off it can still hurt you.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:32 PM
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17. He could, but I doubt that he will. He is not a neocon. |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:55 PM
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23. He's aready promiced the right he would try and over turn Roe! |
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:03 PM
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26. He'd be a fool to try. |
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and I don't think he is that foolish.
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:04 PM
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27. he's a NeoCon on steroids! |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:31 PM
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15. Nope. They are still in government agencies, courts, and the like. |
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:34 PM
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18. Some "burrow in", most lose their jobs on January 20th, 2009. |
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that's what happens in Washington, D.C. when administrations change.
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Wed Feb-13-08 03:42 PM
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22. Not the ones on Wall Street. They'll simply send more parasitic lobbyists to congress to buy folks. |
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And in due time, they will exert control over the legislative agenda. That's their long-term game, and they've been winning for several decades now.
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:07 PM
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28. Stem cell research cures.... |
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How many rabid far right wing nuts will refuse medical treatment and/or cures from stem cell research that they cannot hold back any longer?
Oh I can hear it now: 'Well God needs me to be healthy and strong to carry on his fight. Go fighting Christies!'
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Wed Feb-13-08 04:16 PM
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i just wish our party would start taking action against all the laws broken and crimes commited. the republicans imploded themselves thank goodness, but we wont get anywhere sitting around being happy about it IF WE DONT CHANGE ALL THESE F'D UP POLICIES!
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