People are talking about allowing CCW permit-holders to carry on campuses. I think it's a BAD IDEA.

[BreweryYardRat]

College students -- and I am one -- are about the LAST people I'd trust to carry on campus. For every responsible person with a potential CCW, there's going to be three or four people who are stupid and/or crazy. College is a melting pot -- lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds, and you can't tell who's sane or not from looking at them.

Hell, I have a hair-trigger temper that takes a lot of effort to control. I wouldn't be comfortable with arming myself on campus.

Now, a seminar or two on dealing with how to defend against potential shooters (i.e. not just running or cowering like sheep for the slaughter), I'd be comfortable with that.

[bluerum]

1. Yeah. All the gunners are drooling at a chance for a shoot out.

[BreweryYardRat]

2. I wouldn't go that far.

I just don't think they understand what a modern college campus (especially a state school) is like.

[TomInTib]

3. I agree. And I am a Gun Guy.

I do not believe there is any place for firearms on any campus.

[thunder rising]

4. The problem is that the shooter is ready to die and he's found his targets

Notice that after the initial shooting they hole up and wait to be killed or kill themselves. For them I believe it is the final act against some real or perceived injustice, just like the suicide bombers in the Middle East.

Please watch the videos of America's well trained Army countering an attack by firing full magazines over a wall (no aiming at all) The "defender's" bullets kill too.

If a shooter has the drop on you, you can either fumble for a gun standing as a target or you can run, duck, scream, shout and maybe the shooter will miss. This is just food for thought for all those would be heroes out there that think they can face down a lone gunman in a surprise shooting, but won't join the military where they are sure to see insurgent action.

I'm a Veteran,gun owner, and I'll run for cover if ever caught in a situation. Even the Army teaches you to duck.

[Dimensio0]

5. I do not believe that your concerns are justified.

Thirty-seven states allow for the carrying of concealed deadly weapons through a "shall-issue" permit system. Many of these states have had such a permit system in place for over ten years, and a few have had such a system in place for more that twenty years. None of these states have experienced a disproportionate level of crime committed by citizens who are permitted by license to carry concealed deadly weapons -- in fact, such individuals tend to be more likely not to commit any crimes. These individuals are not creating any significant problems when not on college campuses, thus it is not logical to assume that allowing them to carry deadly weapons when on college campuses will have a negative result.

Additionally, there are a number of colleges that do allow the carrying of concealed deadly weapons by those legally allowed to do so on the premesis. In fact, all state-funded colleges in Utah are forbidden by state law to disallow individuals who are licensed to carry concealed deadly weapons from carrying weapons on campus. If your concerns are justified, you should be able to demonstrate that the colleges where such carrying is allowed have experienced an undesirable outcome from this allowance.

That you do not believe that you would be able to responsibly carry a deadly weapon while on a college campus is not evidence that individuals who would seek to be able to legally carry concealed deadly weapons would also not be able to responsibly do so.

[ThomWV]

6. I have a permit and I carry regularly, I agree with you - no guns on campus.

[Lex1775]

7. I wonder how many people already carry concealed, even if the official college rules say "No"...

[MadMaddie]

8. It's a bad idea...the real issue is How the US deals with Mental

Health in America...every shooting comes back to this core issue.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. An armed society is a polite society.

Everyone is politely stepping around all the corpses while they are on their way to visit their shot up relatives.

[aikoaiko]

10. As a college professor, I wish I could

I have no fantasies about shootouts or being a hero. I just wish I was better able to defend myself at my job.