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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:01 PM
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60 Minutes : "Dissention in the Ranks" ON NOW
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 07:07 PM by Hissyspit
Mike Wallace interviews Bill O'Reilly, as well, if you can stomach Mr. Self-Serving Arrogant Make-Shit-Up Falafel Big Head.

Military resisters story looks good, though.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:06 PM
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1. Could be a good show
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:08 PM
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2. Interviewing 10 who signed "Appeal for Redress"
They are out of uniform and off-base to give interview.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:12 PM
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3. Who's the lady....?
....hosting this segment?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:13 PM
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5. Lara Logan.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:12 PM
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4. Here's the transcript:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/22/60minutes/main2505412.shtml

GIs Petition Congress To End Iraq War
More Than 1,000 Military Personnel Sign Petition Urging Withdrawal

"Just because we volunteered for the military doesn't mean we volunteered to put our lives in unnecessary harm and to carry out missions that are illogical and immoral."

(CBS) They say they are not disloyal. They say they are not shirking their duty and that they do not oppose war. But more than 1,000 active-duty and reserve members of the U.S. military are against the war in Iraq and have said so in an unusually public way — by petitioning Congress last month.

Several of them appear to explain their actions to correspondent Lara Logan this Sunday, Feb. 25, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

"I'm not anti-war. I'm not a pacifist. I'm not opposed to protecting our country and defending our principles," says Navy Petty Officer Jonathan Hutto, an Iraq war veteran who, along with another veteran, initiated the petition.

A 1995 law called the Military Whistleblower act enables military personnel to express their own opinions about Iraq in protected communication directly to Congress.

MORE

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:15 PM
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6. The American soldiers are taught not to complain.
Lara Logan is trying to find out what the troops are really thinking.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:17 PM
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7. When the bullets start flying, you only think about your fellow
soldiers on the left and right.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:25 PM
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11. At least it is on.. It is never enough
She failed to mention how many have signed the Redress but at least it was on.

It really sticks out that they used a foreigner to do the interview. Glad they got their voice out there.. tnere might be some soldiers sitting at home how wants to speak out but doesn't know how.. and he isn't aware of the many groups.. like Vets for Peace or Iraq Veterans Against the WAr.

This segment just reached those who only watch Network news. Or maybe it is their friends or family that have. It will be interesting to see how many hits are on the Redress site.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:28 PM
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14. the website for Appeal to Redress
Right now there are 1361 hits.

If you haven't seen the site yet, here it is

http://www.appealforredress.org
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:20 PM
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8. This sucks. This lady is consistantly making the case
that these soldiers shouldn't be complaining.

It is almost unwatchable.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:22 PM
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9. She's giving them the opportunity to answer their critics.
I don't see anything wrong with her questions. She's letting them explain why they're doing this.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:25 PM
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12. Over and over again
She keeps saying "people are not going to like this. Explain yourself."

Not just once. She started the segment saying it and has said it about a couple dozen times.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:27 PM
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13. I agree
I usually like Ms Logan's reporting but she looks like she wants some animosity here. Very disconcerting. :(
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:33 PM
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16. Disagree
She was playing devil's advocate. That's what all reporters should do. She was not being snippy or disrespectful (as Norah O'Donnell would be). I think all reporters should ask tough questions, but they should ask tough questions to all sides.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:39 PM
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17. If so, then why did she not play devil's advocate when addressing
the military brass. She not bring up the soldiers complaints and ask the military to explain. No instead she said, "the soldiers are complaining, should they be doing that?"

The whole segment was about soldiers complaining. She didn't go into any depth about why they where complaining, just emphasizing the fact that they were complaining.

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:59 PM
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19. Sorry, I missed the beginning
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:40 PM
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18. Why is it that "support the troops" is another "opposite" theory...
I was afraid of they way they'd be spoken to. Kudos to you for stomaching it... I wasn't up to it tonight.

I'm having a hard time about the abuse these soldiers are taking. It started with the group Bush interviewed way back when. During on-air visits to injured soldiers who "can't" say anything against the war if they wanted to, I became SO mad I didn't know what to do with my anger. When the Walter Reed story broke, well, I can't shake it now, it's under my skin BIG TIME. This morning I read about the Iraq vets that are homeless and the numbers are ASTOUNDING... it's completely disgusting and the ultimate betrayal of the most loyal Americans.

Now tonight, Logan is giving insult upon injury by her tone of questioning...

Support the troops, exactly HOW? Ugh. DEFINE "SUPPORT" and while you are at it (not you, particularly)...DEFINE "SUCCESS"
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:16 PM
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20. I agree -- the intentional bias and characterization of these
soldiers as traitors is disgusting. CBS is disgusting in perpetrating this behavior.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:08 PM
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24. Or underscoring how remarkable it is that so many soldiers are speaking out publicly, despite
the many pressures and reasons not to.

Logan isn't a shill lfor the administration. She's been covering Iraq for CBS and has been outspoken against the lies of the Administration's claims of how wonderfully things have been going in Iraq.

CBS wouldn't air her piece "Battle for Haifa Street" because it more bad news from Iraq while the Administration was spinning otherwise: http://www.democrats.com/The-Iraq-Report-CBS-News-Doesnt-Want-You-to-See

Considering Logan herself has been attacked by RWingers as a "traitor" because of her comments and coverage, I rather doubt Logan intended a hit piece on soldiers who have spoken out. Rather, a piece on 60 minutes gives their story wide coverage that they have not had in the network media.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:03 PM
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25. I too have seen her reporting from Iraq,
and she was very credible and presented the news impartially. I am afraid though that the tone of the interview, and the phrasing of the questions, undermined the soldiers. I find it reprehensible that CBS -- especially on 60 Minutes -- chose to do a hit-piece on this group and the real message behind their activism.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:22 PM
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10. One of the soldiers made sure to let Lara
know that he was not a liberal and the appealforredress.org group was non partisan. One of the soldiers is from St Louis, he said Lacy Clay was his congressman. I don't think Lacy Clay supports the war on Iraq

http://www.house.gov/clay/


STATEMENT BY CONGRESSMAN WM. LACY CLAY ON THE FLOOR OF THE U.S HOUSE IN OPPOSITION TO PRESIDENT BUSH’S PLAN TO ESCALATE THE WAR IN IRAQ

February 14, 2007

“Mr. Speaker, honorable colleagues, I rise to declare my absolute and unwavering opposition to the President’s plan to escalate this tragic and unnecessary war. Four years ago, I stood on the floor of this House to oppose the original force authorization resolution.

I believed then, and I still believe today, that great nations do not start wars as a matter of policy, they exercise diplomacy and negotiation to avert threats and achieve security.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:29 PM
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15. "Great nations do not start wars as a matter of policy"
That is an amazing statement by Lacy Clay.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:48 PM
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21. Has Oleilly been on yet?
Has Oleilly been on yet?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:50 PM
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22. He was. You didn't miss much.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:03 PM
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23. Mike Wallace kept pointing out to O'Rielly how O'Lielly is hypocritical and makes stuff up.
Not that it made any difference to O'Lielly.

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 09:08 AM
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28. So glad that punk...
made it clear that only non-liberals are smart enough to oppose the war.
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talkinghead Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:16 PM
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26. F O'Reilly
O'Reilly is a true authoritarian. "We report, you decide, and then I'll tell you why you're wrong."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:02 AM
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27. One of them was on his way back to Iraq (RE-inlisted).
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