I CAN'T BELIEVE SICKO LOST

[Chicago1]

I almost fell off of the couch. I really wanted Michael Moore to WIN but he didn't. Maybe his next film will win.


START THE IMPEACHMENT

[DS1]

1. I can

It was good, but not great.

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. I disagree. It IS great.

But that's not saying that 'Taxi' might not be greater.

I think that on a purely film level, 'Taxi to the Darkside' may have more staying power - it will be relevant 25 years from now, whereas, I hope, "Sicko" will just be a quaint film about the bad old days before we finally got single-payer healthcare.

[Gman]

17. Not near as stunning as Fahrenheit 911

F911 was captivating.

[alfredo]

2. The one that won is an important film. His speech was great.

[medeak]

3. agree...important film and moving speech.

guarantee Moore approves

[JCMach1]

7. See it if you can... the evidence presented in the film is damning

At a MINIMUM Rumsfeld should be on trial for warcrimes.

[alfredo]

18. I hope to see it soon.

[bdamomma]

29. very moving speech.

and I'm glad they didn't censor his message.

[JCMach1]

4. Taxi Ride was an incredible expose on the Bush admin's warcrimes

It was better than Sicko... I love MMoore and I am saying that.

[Breeze54]

5. I can... the war on Iraq and torture are more important!

But Michael Moore was smiling and clapping for the winners, so I'm sure he's cool with it. ;)

[Kajsa]

31. Hi Breeze. They are equally important.

Especially when you have health insurance companies issuing "cost saving"
death sentences everyday.

But I'm happy to hear a good, important film like 'Taxi to the Dark Side' won.

;)

[Breeze54]

36. Ending the War on Iraq is MORE important !!

So we can stop spending billions on it and fund health care!!

I hear what you're saying and health care is important but I think Iraq is priotity #1!

[Kajsa]

37. Not when a loved one is dying

and being denied life saving care/treatments.

Especially now in CA, where Ahnuld's budget cuts
will specifically target healthcare for the poor, elderly and
the disabled.


But Oh, we still have that tax break on yachts that are
purchased here, then kept out of state for 60 days!
Doncha know- those yacht owners need their tax breaks.

I don't see the war continuing with either one of
our candidates in the WH.

Healthcare I'm not so sure about.

Both are important and can be pursued at the same time.

[Breeze54]

38. "Not when a loved one is dying"... that's what the Iraqi's and Mom's of soldiers are saying.

:(

[Kajsa]

43. So, which one

has " top priority" ?

They both do!

I grieve for all of them.

[Breeze54]

47. We can't fund one without stopping the other first.

I'm sorry you're having a terrible ordeal but the fact is, we need to stop
funding the war, so that we can take care of social issues, like health care.

[Kajsa]

48. I see what you are saying.

I'm hoping we can do both.
Hope is what keeps me going, sometimes.

IMHO, we can't get GW and his BA out of DC fast enough!

[Breeze54]

49. Hi again! Please read the thread posted here......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2922836&mesg_id=2922836

[Kajsa]

50. Great thread, Breeze!

i gave it a good K & R.

:hi:

[bobbolink]

39. Please also see this thread! Box ahnold in...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2921788&mesg_id=2921788

Thanks!

:hi:

[Kajsa]

44. You got it, Bobbolink!

Thanks for the info!

:hi:

[Aviation Pro]

6. Taxi to the Dark Side.....

...is a far more important film this year. Sicko was good at pushing buttons, but the impact of our, correction this illegal administration's, embrace of torture should sicken every patriotic and true American.

[deadmessengers]

8. I'm ok with it

I think it's a pretty powerful statement that all 5 nominated films involved giving the finger to the Repugnicans in one form or another, so I would have been happy with any of them winning.

[TheWatcher]

9. The right film won.

You should really take a look at which film did win.

Watch it. You'll come back and delete this post if you do.

[krispos42]

10. WTF? The Oscars were tonight?

I thought they usually had them in March???


Shit.

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. As of last year, they moved them up to February.

I think it's because it's always a down time in the industry, and the early Oscars gives the nominees a kick before they disappear from the theaters.

By the time they usually happened in mid/late March, the audience was just that much farther away from having seen the films, contributing to dwindling Oscar viewership.

[krispos42]

15. Ah, I see...

I thought all the buzz I was hearing in the background about the Oscars was the list of nominees coming out last week or so. I work nights and don't have cable, so I'm a little out of the loop. Usually they are around my birthday, which is how I remember them.

[Tesha]

21. I thought they moved them up because it would give California more "say" in the Oscars.

(Joke. Or at least, "attempted joke".)

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. LOL

[leftofthedial]

30. didn't the academy decide to suppress the California delegates

because of this?

[LTR]

35. It's also a ratings sweeps month

November, February and May are when the networks set their advertising rates, based on ratings performance. That's why they often trot out their 'strongest' stuff during these periods.

This is why the Super Bowl was bumped into February, and why ABC wanted the Oscars moved up. Notice that "American Idol" kicked off this month too? These are the biggest ratings draws of the season.

[SoCalDem]

11. The problem is that MM often releases his movies in the summer

and by the time the voting starts, there are other, more recent and seeminly more esoteric documentaries that have been released..and probably some people have pushed MM's movies to the background by thenn ..

I don't think MM does his movies for the recognition, though..so he's probably ok with someone else winning

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. OTOH, that means the DVDs are available for christmas presents.

There are a LOT of MM films floating around in my family circles.

[stillrockin]

14. I hope this film is seen widely. It's important.

[2Design]

19. the film that one says more about what usa is doing around the world to damage people n/t

[HuffleClaw]

20. one oscar is plenty for anyone n/t

[Snarkturian Clone]

22. King of Kong: A Fist Full of Quarters was robbed.

It was easily the best documentary of the year. The award is labeled "Best Documentary" not "Most Important Documentary".

[KharmaTrain]

23. It Wasn't One Of MM's Best...

Sicko was a very valuable movie...said a lot, but from a Hollywood standpoint, it fell far short of the entertainment factor of past Moore movies. While messages are important...and Sicko made millions aware of the mess our health care system is...style always trumps substance in Hollywood and a good story will trump a strong message.

From what I've read...Taxi to the Dark Side is both a compelling story with a strong message...the two elements that are rare in today's films...and it's not that Sicko didn't deserve it as much as Taxi to the Dark Side appears to really deserve the honor. I look forward to seeing it when HBO shows it.

I'm curious about MM's NOLA project...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

25. Michael Moore is from Michigan

and MI delegates were excluded from voting.

:cry:

:rofl:

[jlake]

26. I can. It wasn't that good. I was disappointed when I saw it.

[malaise]

27. I wanted him to win but Taxi to the Darker side

is an important documentary. I haven't seen it yet but if the speech was a snippet, then it's all good.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. Before the awards I wanted Sicko to win. When they described Taxi, about rendition, I knew that was

far more important right now. I am and I am not looking forward to seeing it.

[melm00se]

32. that is what makes

films so difficult and awards, frankly, useless...how do you decide which of 2 quality films is better than the other? it comes down to personal taste a truly undefinable, subjective measurement.

[fascisthunter]

33. It Already Won Other Awards. I'm Not Surprised

I'm gonna check this new movie out.... looks really good.

[Blue_In_AK]

34. That was an extremely tough field...

All of those documentaries were excellent. Too bad they couldn't all get an Oscar.

[Herman74]

40. The Right Film Won, as Bush's Crimes are more Important than Bush's Neglect n/t

[dysfunctional press]

41. did you get a chance to view the film that won?

if you had/have, it should probably be a lot easier to believe.

[Skittles]

45. that's what I was going to say

unless you saw them all, how could you be surprised?

[Herman74]

42. Michael Moore Himself Congratulates Taxi to the Darkside...

... at his website, www.michaelmoore.com

[spanone]

46. being a nominee is winning itself imho

[bryant69]

51. Taxi to the Dark Side is by all accounts a great film

I haven't seen it, but it certainly sounds worthy based on what I've read.

Bryant
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