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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:01 PM Original message |
Generals to quit if US strikes Iran |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Generals are rebelling They Know this is madness |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
61. the madness of King George will give way to the madness of John McCain -- if |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. ...but supposedly HARRY REID and NANCY PELOSI can't see this . . ? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Resignation is the protest tool of choice in the military. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. This is the ONLY tool actually |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. There are others. Soldiers have their passive aggressive tools to |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Yeah. E-4's have tools unavailable to generals. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. One of their tools is related to retention rates. Keep giving us the |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Now they have "Stop Loss" And also threatening to transfer those who refuse to reup |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I would be calling my congressman on the spot. Of course if he's a Rep, |
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Forrest Greene (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. There's Fragging n/t |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Actually, there's also the military coup |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Military coups are too messy. They cause all kinds of undesirable |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. There are political tools being used by the brass right now other than resignation or an open coup |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. I'm a big fan of removal in place. Leave them in their job, but |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:58 AM Response to Reply #68 |
86. And, that is precisely what's been done. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. It needs to be expanded to domestic policy. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. people don't seem to realize how big a deal this is. Has it happened this high up |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. other than that general who told the bushes and others to take their |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. yep. Though Smedley Butler was retired at the time, and he was just one guy |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Military is rebelling Another Preemptive Strike is leading |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think I'll go rent 'Seven Days in May' now that I'm inspired. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Provided there is a future... |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. The source of the story is not particularly credible it's an Iran based |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I hadn't noticed the source, thanks. Here's a better one, though |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. The story has been floating around for a while |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. "a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Morality is not an effective argument with this administration. |
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Drifter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. He's going for the Trifecta ... |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. article is from a year ago - but still go good for awareness... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yup, see #13. nt |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. When the military takes a stance - and the people don't - we're in deep doo-doo. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I was thinking the same thing -- the U.S. has now become a banana republic. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
72. Wiki definition of Banana Republic: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. We're now the GOP's "banana republic" --- that's what they've been working for --- |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. If only they would order their troops to seize the White House instead |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. God forbid! Few things would be more frightening to me. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. That frightens you more than a renegade criminal commander-in-chief? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. It's frightening that anyone purporting to be 'progressive' would wish for a military coup. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Would it technically be a military coup? |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. How many of these military coups were engineered by the US? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. You do realize what you are asking for, don't you? |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. granted, but our choice may be Blackwater or the Army, etc. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. There are plenty of reasons for concern, but OTOH |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. Good. I hope they do. Resign, that is. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. Remember Scott Ritter saying of this administration, "The are not Americans"? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is why Donald Rumsfeld and Exxon Mobil are looking elsewhere for more oil |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. k&r |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. bu$h* & chenee don't need no steeenkin' generals..... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sounds reasonable. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. I hope this is true |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
57. And look how the German people paid for it. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R, very cool! n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
34. BREAKING: Republican Party Loses Support from the Military |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. The Anti-Coup! I'm all for it!! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
41. So when these 4 or 5 resign (hopefully before the wo) we'll know what up. |
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othermeans (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sorry no 5 star generals in the US now!! n/t |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
45. I applaud the true patriots in the Pentagon who would take this action. |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
47. If true..... |
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idovoodoo (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
49. What a bunch of unmitigated bullshit. And a farrago of lies. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
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Dan (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
50. Well, for every one that resigns,... |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
54. And then they'll just get more Generals. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Exactly. It's worked so far. |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
62. Republicans can steal elections |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
63. Um, this story is exactly ONE YEAR OLD, people |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
64. Too bad that the enlisted fodder can't quit as well. |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
65. Yeah, I think the message has been sent to Bush and Cheney that |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
66. Doesn't this mean that the Generals are taking a stand because Congress didn't.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Absolutely . . . !! Dems got the msg in 2006 --- and IGNORED IT . . .!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. Absolutely . . . !! Dems got the msg in 2006 --- and IGNORED IT . . .!!! |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. After reading some of the comments in this thread I've come up with a new name for Dumbya. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. MAYBE IF WE DONT ATTACK.... BUSH WOULD RESIGN? |
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mynameisearl (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
70. 58 replies and no one has mentioned |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
71. THIS is why we MUST vote for the democratic nominee |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. "Whoever it is" . . . ???? So we get more of the same like with Reid + Pelosi--???? |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. so you're going to vote for McCain then? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. So you're going to vote for more war --- ??? |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Nader doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Neither do you stand a "snowball's" chance of getting single-payer health care |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. what i'm spouting is REALITY based |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
73. Attacking Iran seems to be a still active subject for the WH criminals . . .!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
79. How many Generals have already resigned or been fired --- ??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. And Obama still opposes IMPEACHMENT . . . ??? !!! ??? !!!! ???? |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
88. The generals have to do a little more than whimpily "QUIT"!!!!! We need action!! |
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