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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 09:57 AM Original message |
I wonder what it would cost to insure every American with a 10K deductable |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. A 10K deductible? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. But this is just for everyone. I have no clue as the cost... maybe 5k per illness... |
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Arger68 (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. My $10,000 deductible policy just went from |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. It should be cheaper with a larger pool, competitively bid. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Very few could afford that, BUT depending on how it was set up, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Most people don't have 10K just sitting around and |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I think that the point is that the first 10k would be covered by private insurance. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Oh, now I see. That's what happens when I try to understand high finance. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
63. In that case, can you give me two twenties for this ten? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. I don't see the point of splitting it into primary insurance and secondary insurance |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You don't need a policy for #2. The government provides it to |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. OK, so if the government can provide policy #2 more cheaply |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. It most certainly does. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. Are you asking me? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Every major procedure (over 10k) would be single payer. nt |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. A 10K policy would keep people from using any health insurance |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. I don't understand your point. You would only use it if something |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
7. I assume that would have a preventative component? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Not in my mind. I think private insurance, with a cap on a percentage |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. From a public health standpoint those plans worry me |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Yes, they both do. And for the poor, government subsidized. |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. cool |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. who can afford to pay a $10K deductible? i work full time & i can't |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Your current insurance would cover it... |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. two years ago, i had arthroscopic surgery on my knee |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Under my plan, the cost for your surgery would be 10k if you |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. One more time - we do NOT need some bullshit insurance plan where the |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Perhaps some not-for-profit health insurance companies would |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. 10K??? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. If you currently have a deductable, you currently have insurance. |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. I Would Love My Costs to Come Down |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Absolutely. We still need the regulation that is currently being proposed. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. A 10k deductible may not be a good alternative for those who oppose "mandatory" universal healthcare |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Why not? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. If they can't afford a few hundred for premiums, they probably won't spend $10k deductible. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Right, if you choose not to buy private insurance to supplement it. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. 10k? No thanks. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Why not? It is much better than 100k for a heart operation. nt |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. For the many reasons listed. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. That would only be if you choose not to buy a supplemental plan. |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. yeh, by your calculation, i would have to pay 90K of my heart operation. WTF???? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. using insurance companies in our health care is a big mistake and we need to remove it |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. This, at least, is a *start* at limiting them. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. Either of our cadidates "plans" are nothing other than profit protection schemes |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. But politically, that is not going to happen soon. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. It is this acceptance of blatant corruption, combined with the monumental stupidity |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Well, I am sorry that you feel that way, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Wrong on two counts; this is the system we allow, and nobody is talking |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. How are you going to leave the Health Insurance industry intact |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Again, nobody has ever proposed government provided health care. n/t |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. Catastrophic insurance is just another way to go bankrupt. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. How so? |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. If I had a 10K deductible....I'd be without healthcare at all. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well, I don't know why you don't have healthcare...there can be many |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. i swear, i don't know what you are thinking |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. No. I am not explaining something right. Let me try again |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. Get rid of private insurance companies. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. We cannot rid the world of all evil in a day. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
50. All we need to do is to decide what we want to be as a country |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
52. I have $10K deductible |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. There must be some sort of pre-existing condition for that to |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. There is........ |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That sounds way high. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I think Clinton's is best because it covers all |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Me too. But the mandate language is hurting her. |
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