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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:42 AM
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heating oil and gasoline prices -wheres the feds.

I just topped off my #2 heating oil tank for $507.57 =176.3 gal. or $2.879 per gallon.
IN Feb. of 2001 the year Bush took office 176.3 gal at $0.90 =$158.67 . a difference of
$348.90 or 319.89% more in 7 years.
Now my president is fighting to keep the corporate welfare freebies in the new energy bill
because companies like exxon -mobile only made 40.3 billion dollars last year(the largest profit ever made by a corporation in history).
Well Mr president use your office to put in roll backs and price control. you have the power try using it for the people.
where is the press and the legislature on this.
do you think wages have kept up with prices? don't you realize your killing the American dream? leading the country to third world status, busting the budget to the point of no recovery!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:45 AM
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1. He's a faux-Texan. For him patriotism is "Let them freeze in the dark."
Why would we think he's changed his world view?
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:05 AM
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4. unfortunately I lived there for a year

I lived there for a year. corruption was rampant in the 50's whore houses and illegal gambling everywhere. min. wage was .60 per hour and my landlord owned a car wash. back then they use more labor in the car washes. most were colored day workers and they hustled. I said to him I always her the colored are lazy but these guys really bust butt. his reply"they ought to work I pay them .40 cents an hour under the table. farm workers were treated no better.
they started cleaning up Texas in the sixties but there still is some of that element left.
that old saying keeps playing in my mind "you can tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much"
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:05 AM
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5. unfortunately I lived there for a year
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:06 AM by luckyleftyme2
I lived there for a year. corruption was rampant in the 50's whore houses and illegal gambling everywhere. min. wage was .60 per hour and my landlord owned a car wash. back then they use more labor in the car washes. most were colored day workers and they hustled. I said to him I always hear the colored are lazy but these guys really bust butt. his reply"they ought to work I pay them .40 cents an hour under the table. farm workers were treated no better.
they started cleaning up Texas in the sixties but there still is some of that element left.
that old saying keeps playing in my mind "you can tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much"
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:57 AM
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2. Hell Bush was in a talking to the press yesterday
Bush had no clue that gas prices could reach 4$ a gallon by spring. Yes NO CLUE!!

WASHINGTON -- The prospect of sharply higher fuel prices, including $4-a-gallon gasoline, may not have made it into Oval Office briefing books, perhaps explaining why President Bush was surprised Thursday when a reporter mentioned what energy analysts are saying could happen soon in many parts of the country.

"Wait, what did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gasoline?" Bush responded to a reporter who said some analysts expect prices to soon climb that high. "That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. . . . I know it's high now."

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-gas29feb29,1,2210127.story

This is a president that all along has had no clue.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:59 AM
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3. We are running out of oil. Its only going to get worse.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:00 AM by dkf
We were living in denial for too long. Now its going to bite our oil gobbling butts.

When middle eastern countries are looking into solar and nuclear power, you know something is up...
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:12 AM
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6. tell us something new
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:12 AM by luckyleftyme2
We know that he knows that but he will defend the oil cartel till the last drop is sold.
we need alternative energy yesterday. his kind is thwarting it at every avenue possible.
who ever our new president is his hands will be full undoing all the errors of the BUSH family legacies.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM
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7. No we're not. There's a shitload of oil left, 20 years from now we'll still be buring (less) oil
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM by ThomWV
Saying we are running out of oil is like saying you are out of food when you're running low on potato chips although your freezer doesn't have room in it for another bag of frozen peas or another frozen steak.

We have skimmed the cream off of the top of the world's oil supply, we are no where near running out. We burn far to much and waste one hell of a lot more making plastic trinkets, but it simply is not true that somehow a major shortage looms near in the future. It just ain't so.

In fact any realistic look at current oil price shows that supply has little to do with it. If you want to find where the high price in oil comes from go to Chicago and Dubai; the failure is in the financial markets, not the oil patch.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:51 AM
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8. Look at oil discovery. It simply doesn't keep up with usage.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:51 AM by dkf
It only makes sense that if you keep on using more than you discover, you will have less supply.

Factor in the booms in China, India, and even in the middle east and I am pretty danged sure we will not have enough to keep prices low.

Look also at the growing nationalization of oil resources, how China is sending the military to protect its oil interests around the world, and how we invaded Iraq.

If you were right and oil was plentiful, I doubt this would be happening.

Lastly, people who deny this make me mad because we as a country will be frogs sitting in that pot til we are fried. So yeah, convince people that we can have cheap oil again. Then they can believe that their next SUV is a fine purchase because the next Dem prez will bring gas down to a dollar a gallon.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:54 AM
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9. Yo Lucky, $2.87 a gallon is cheap - I filled half a tank @ $3.20/gal last week
I just bought a pellet stove (which has been sitting in my living room for nearly 2 weeks while a part is on order - ugh) - that's the only way I will survive the rest of the winter.

I'm getting 5 tons of pellets and 3 cords of firewood this summer - no more oil for me.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:24 AM
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10. HI J PAK

Well IF YOU LISTENED TO THE LOCAL SHOW TODAY you know you made the right decision.
with people like scot and mike in our legislature there will be no changes at the federal level. they are experts at grabbing the headlines and doing nothing.IN FACT scot is Bush's adopted kin and mike surely must have a connection.
We all know the oil companies are gouging why hasn't the feds. stepped in? I wonder how much of McCain's war chest will be oil and defense contractors money. heh,heh!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:27 AM
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11. mobile only made 40.3 billion dollars last year(
That equates to well over One Hundred Million dollars a Day every day, day in and day out week after week, month after month, year after year for over four straight years..Prices keep going up.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:33 AM
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12. and how many brands in the usa

bp,shell texaco,getty,phillips etc etc etc. now you know why it's called texas tea,black gold,black liquor etc etc. texas mafia?
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