I know Cheney's fat, but how do they call "1 mile away" an assassination attempt?

[Atman]

The army is giving a briefing right now and say Cheney was over a mile away and never in any danger. Yet, we're supposed to also call this an "assassination attempt?" They really do think we're dumber than they are, don't they?

[pearl]

1. Sort of like hunting with friends

Everything is just used so cynically for the craziest of outcomes. What bastards they all are.

[Catherine Vincent]

2. It's a sympathy play for Cheney. n/t

[patrice]

4. Bingo!!

Be AFRAID America! They want to kill us ALL!

[notadmblnd]

6. that's how I see it

they're trying to garner sympathy for him.

[Bobbie Jo]

21. With a dab of Fear Mongering as an added bonus. n/t

These thugs are so predictable. :eyes:

[SteppingRazor]

3. They're calling it an assassination attempt because the people who took credit for it...

specifically said Cheney was the target.

[patrice]

5. The whole situation is full of double and tripple agents. n/t

[SteppingRazor]

7. So ... you're saying either:

We bombed the place or we put in a fake credit-taking missive, pinning it on an enemy while playing up sympathy for Cheney?

Eh, the first situation's way too tinfoil for me, and the second one just doesn't seem as likely as an actual bombing, given the current state of affairs in Afghanistan.

[patrice]

10. We? No. And I'm not ruling out the possibility of an actual bombing.

Just introducing the possibility that, since we and Saudi Arabia are now working with outfits like the Muslim Brotherhood and Asbat al-Ansar, that bomb could have come from a variety of sources.

[Atman]

14. See post #13

The spokesperson pretty much disavowed the Taliban claim, and just called them a bunch of names.

.

[SteppingRazor]

15. What Cheney's spokesperson says is immaterial. What the Taliban says....

is what's at issue here. And in the report you cite, no one disavowed anything. They just said they didn't know.

Meanwhile, an alleged Taliban spokesman, said to the Associated Press (notice it's unfiltered, not through the VP's office) that it was the Taliban:

"However, a purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, said Cheney was the target of the attack.

“We knew that Dick Cheney would be staying inside the base,” Ahmadi told AP telephone from an undisclosed location. “The attacker was trying to reach Cheney.”

Ahmadi said the attack was carried out by an Afghan called Mullah Abdul Rahim from Logar province."

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070227/NEWS07/70227022/1048/SPORTS



I'm not trying to take Cheney's part in this, but you can't just fit the facts to support your side. The truth matters.

[Atman]

16. From Freep.com?

You'll sure are accepting of this 'official' story, despite how steeped in bullshit it so obviously is.

.

[SteppingRazor]

17. You have a problem with quoting from Associated Press stories...

printed in major daily newspapers?

If AP and newspaper stories are not proper news sources, one wonders what fits your criteria for a news source.

Freep.com is the Web site of the Detroit Free Press, by the way.

[Atman]

18. LOL! I didn't even check the link, just saw the name

It was a natural mistake, given where we are. But I was talking about a press conference given this afternoon, posted as I saw it happening. I appreciate your respect the 100% accuracy of the AP, but the Taliban can say the sunk the Titanic -- it doesn't make it so.

.

[SteppingRazor]

20. No worries. And I certainly agree on some of your points here...

yes, the AP can be wrong (I'm certainly not convinced of the AP's veracity 100% of the time) . And yes, the Taliban can take credit for something it didn't do. But to quote Freud, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, y'know?

[niyad]

8. some of us came in late--link, please?

[Atman]

13. I typed it as the army spokeswoman said it

It must be up somewhere by now. And to the other poster saying it was because the Taliban said so, well, NO. The spokesperson wouldn't even confirm that anymore, simply using the same kind of crazy talk the bad guys use when they taunt us -- she said they're just "cowards" looking for anything they can get, blah blah blah. It was a very odd, very brief segment. The woman was not one of the usual spokespeople, and she seemed very nervous and halting. It was strange.

.

[Bjornsdotter]

9. So by that reasoning

....when the house down the block from me blew up it was an assassination attempt on the rest of us. Give me a break....they do think we are that stupid.

If Cheney's looking for sympathy, he's getting none here.

Cheers

[youngdem]

11. It was a shot across the bow

As close as they could get...A notice that they are there, and that they know enough to know when unannounced visits are happening. Planting a seed.

That's all. IMO

[paparush]

12. This *ahem* assassination attempt is just another 1. Rogue Plane over DC airspace

2. Strange package left on Capitol steps.
3. Increase in electronic 'chatter'

Its smoke. Its mirrors. It keeps the 'ragheads' as the bad guys. Wag Wag the Dog Dog

[leftofthedial]

19. he is the most paranoid asshole on earth

bunkers, undisclosed locations

fucking freak show.

[mtnsnake]

22. Didn't they also call that snowstorm last week in DC an assassination attempt

by Mother Nature who hates his guts for what he and his pals have done to the environment?

[MzNov]

23. Let's see. The story took the focus off [insert Bush atrocity here].

GORE-44 !!!

:bounce:

[PhilipShore]

24. Self Delete - Dupe

[Jack Rabbit]

25. And we thought the Bushies were a gang that couldn't shoot straight

Especially Cheney himself.

It looks like the Taliban have them beat in that department.

[PhilipShore]

26. MSM Double talk (doublespeak)

Doublespeak
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Doublespeak is language deliberately constructed to disguise or distort its actual meaning, often resulting in a communication bypass. Such language is often associated with governmental, military, and corporate institutions and its deliberate use by these is what distinguishes it from other euphemisms. Doublespeak may be in the form of bald euphemisms ("downsizing" for "firing of many employees") or deliberately ambiguous phrases ("wet work" for "assassination", "take out" for "destroy").

History

The word doublespeak was coined in the early 1950s. It is often incorrectly attributed to George Orwell and his 1948 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. The word actually never appears in that novel; Orwell did, however, coin newspeak, oldspeak, and doublethink, and his novel made fashionable composite nouns with speak as the second element, which were previously unknown in English. It was therefore just a matter of time before someone came up with doublespeak. Doublespeak may be considered, in Orwell's lexicography, as the B vocabulary of Newspeak, words "deliberately constructed for political purposes: words, that is to say, which not only had in every case a political implication, but were intended to impose a desirable mental attitude upon the person using them."

Examples of doublespeak in current usage

Doublespeak is most reminiscent of Orwell's "newspeak" when it is used by a government agency to cover up something unpleasant. The government may find the need to talk about something that has negative connotations to large portions of the public, and avoids backlash by replacing the term with a new one that most people will not recognize as the same thing. Thus "area denial munitions" means "landmines", "physical persuasion" and "tough questioning" mean "torture", and "operational exhaustion" means "shell shock". The government even employs doublespeak against its own, for example the U.S. Army's recruitment motto is "Be an Army of One." This appeals to rugged individualism, yet the reality of soldiering is that of submission to authority and the following of orders without question.

Doublespeak was very common in the Third Reich. Goebbels'

Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda (Ministry of the Reich for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda) coined thousands of new German words. Other examples include "concentration camp" (labor/death camp, or "joycamp" in Newspeak), "protective custody" (imprisonment without due process of law), "Heim ins Reich" (occupation of Austria), and particular new meanings for "Volk" (people) and "Rasse" (race). The "Final Solution", i.e. Extermination of all Jews is probably the most well-known of such words.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak

[MoonRiver]

27. Not only that but the stock market crashed 415 pts. in total shock and awe

at the mere thought that The Great and Powerful Oz might have, almost, sort of, been assassinated. :eyes:

[shance]

28. Everything they do is premeditated, manufactured and based upon lies.

n/t