ThomWV
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:47 AM
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Lieberman Will Have The Distinction of Having Run For VP On Both Sides |
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I'm sure McLame will pick smokin' Joe Lieberman as his Vice Presidential running mate. Their thinking is they will be able to label themselves some sort of 'unity' ticket. The real hope is that Lieberman will be able to suck off the same Democrats (you know who you are that George Bush did in 2000 and 2004. Lieberman will claim to be a Democrat and many weak minded souls will agree that by voting for at mixed ticket they will be improving the country. Their running slogan will be Unity, not the war.
Might work.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:48 AM
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1. He needs Lieberman to correct his brain farts. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:49 AM
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2. I don't think he will pick him for VP |
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That really will alienate the right. I do think LIEberman will have a cabinet position with McSame though.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:50 AM
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3. Lieberman doesn't piss off the right any more than Zell Miller did |
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They see him as the only sensible Democrat.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:57 AM
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10. Yes, but the diehard conservatives think he is too liberal anyway |
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He is trying to court them now and bring them back into the fold (while our candidates squabble among themselves). I don't think he would risk Lieberman as a VP and risk losing them again.
Sorry, I just think our candidates need to work this out sooner rather than later. If they wait until the convention in late August, they won't have enough time to bring the party back together. I heard an interesting suggestion on Rachel Maddow last night, since this thing will come down to the super delegates, make them commit by June so they can get this thing settled before the convention, whichever way it goes.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:09 AM
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12. Diehard conservatives think McCain is too liberal.... n/t |
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:27 AM
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18. But the far right already thinks McSame is too moderate. |
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That's why McLame can't pick Lieberman as a running mate, even if he wants to. He's got the warmonger vote covered and that's about all Lieberman would bring to the table for them except for the satisfaction of having another Zell Miller on their hands.
So what better candidate than a flat-earth Huckleberry?
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:52 AM
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4. And having lost both times. |
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Fuck Lieberman and the horse he rode in on.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:29 AM
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19. my first reaction also!. . . . .n/t |
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:52 AM
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5. Joementum's Buckin' For Secretary Of State |
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Gramps needs a fire-breathin', knuckle-draggin', bigotted, racist, sexist homophobe to "balance" the ticket. No Jews need apply.
Joe's got his sites on foreign policy and keeping his AIPAC and neo-con buddies in the clear.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:55 AM
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:54 AM
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McCain needs the repuke base. I'm not sure Lieberman will get that for him.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:55 AM
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8. And running for office under 3 different parties ... |
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there's a fair-weather friend for yah.
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:56 AM
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9. "Follow us, into the past." - Johnny & Joey |
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Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 07:56 AM by SpiralHawk
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:02 AM
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11. If Joe doesn't get picked, this will have been a big waste of his time |
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Poor Joe.
Like a puppy on a leash.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:10 AM
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13. There's a lot of risk for Lieberman |
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Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 08:12 AM by Gman
Lieberman likes being chair of Homeland Security. That was the deal for him to caucus with the Democrats giving them a majority. Lieberman probably first and foremost has to ask himself if McCain will win. Secondly, he has to ask if the Democrats will pick up additional Senate seats. If McCain wins, Lieberman is president of the Senate. If McCain loses and the Democrats pick up Senate seats, Lieberman is an irrelevant minority Senator.
I personally think Lieberman's ego is entirely too big to run on a ticket that by all accounts has a slim chance of winning. If he stays on the sidelines, he keeps what he's got (probably).
As for Lieberman and a Cabinet position if McCain wins, I don't think he'll do that either as there's a lot more power in being a US Senator than there is being a high ranking bureaucrat.
JMHO.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:16 AM
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I think your personal view is correct in that his ego is entirely too big, but maybe - and we can only hope - it is that great big ego that will convince him that he, his presence on the ticket, is what will make McLame a winner. Just speculation here of course.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:11 AM
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14. No need for Ralph Nader to run |
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Corporations don't own both parties. The Dems and the GOP are very different and there is no need for more voices in our democracy.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:12 AM
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15. He will have the Distinction of Losing as VP in Two Parties. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:17 AM
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17. A pleasing thought. The side benefit is it would get him out of the Senate. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:30 AM
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20. I think they would win if they do that |
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Some people say that McCain needs to have a batshit crazy fundie on his arm in order to sway the right wing, but I don't think so. McCain knows that the reason he's winning in some polls at the moment is that he's swaying the INDEPENDENT voters. They might not agree with a single on of his positions, but they respect him.
Idiotic reason to vote for a person, but I digress...
If McCain tags Lieberman, then not only will they sell those independents, they might even sway some democrats. If they can assuage the fundies enough, they might not turn out en masse, but they'll vote against whoever the divisive liberal candidate is and vote for the unity ticket.
McCain/Lieberman would beat any democratic ticket put up against them by double digits, the media would be screaming mandate and unity, and then we'd have another four years of our country continuing to self destruct because the people who live here are fucking moronic sheep who apparently can't see the wool pulled over their eyes.
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Fri Mar-21-08 09:03 AM
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22. You have painted the picture my mind's eye saw |
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You hit the nail right on the head. I could see it working out exactly as you describe.
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Fri Mar-21-08 08:59 AM
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21. The ultimate Flip-Flopper as a running mate? |
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Possible, but I'm not sure McCain will go for it. All those corrections from the peanut gallery on the ME trip weren't too attractive on the teevee.
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Fri Mar-21-08 09:26 AM
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Its obvious that Joe's gunning for the GOP VP slot. Apparently, Lindsay Graham's running for First Lady.
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:34 AM
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24. he won't pick Lieberman |
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He's a tool and a warmonger but on social issues he still has a pretty liberal voting record - hardly something McCain can afford with the batshit crazy con base.
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