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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:07 PM
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Passport-Gate... a gift?
Ok, ok the worst case scenarios are well known, This is a fishing expedition..... to find proper things to be used later for blackmail

So let's look at this as the least damaging possible... yep, it was a curious employee or employees who looked at things they were not supposed to look at.

Fine... This is the best evidence of why certain services are NOT privatized. You see, except for the Clinton gaffe in 1991 that was actually investigated... this has never happened before. This company was hired and contracted to handle the influx of passport applications and obviously the private sector could not handle this with proper Q\A and security in place

So best case scenario folks this is an argument AGAINST privatizing everything.

Yep, we should thank George for that gift...

So go ahead and use this to argue for MORE government workers in mission critical jobs (and consular affairs is a critical job)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:09 PM
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1. outsourcing
the unbeatable high
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:10 PM
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2. God and these guys work for many
agencies, not only state... yep, this is a gift.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:11 PM
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3. very good way to look at this story
outsourcing is a problem, not a solution...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:11 PM
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4. It will be a gift if someone investigates.
Congress is not real good at that nor the executive branch at responding though.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:13 PM
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5. Leave congress out of this
you and I need to take this story as the gift it is and rail against outsourcing of guv'ment jobs.

Use this as a prime example of WHY you DO NOT do this... aka the outsourcing

Frame the issue in ways to help you make the argument that outsourcing is bad

Oh and feel free to demand an investigation... add with your demand a backbone

:-)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:26 PM
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10. All sounds good.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:18 PM
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13. For kicks & giggles, google 'tax returns + outsourcing'
then consider all the data you have to give the government, by law, that they are PAYING corporations to take.

Yep, it is a gift to call attention to this crap of privatization.
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:50 PM
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6. I don't like outsourcing either
but peeking at files happenes with government employees too. People are people. So far, that is all I see in this event - curious people. Apprporiate action has been taken. I don't think we should make too much out of it based on what we see now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:27 PM
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8. Miss the opportunity
also we have not seen such a cluster when this was in Guv'ment hands. And I bet it is more expensive too
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:29 PM
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11. The key phrase is "we have not seen it"
Could be more expensive. Probably is. Still under A-72 this function probably qualifies for contracting out.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:49 PM
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12. No it does not. The gov'ment is not the enemy
at least not when it is designed to work, and not handicapped every step of the way by ideologues

Which is what has happened under the bushies.

Regardless, I now that at one time the phrase "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" was not feared, You can thank Ronnie Reagan for that one, and it is high time Americans realize that we need to go back to PUBLIC servants, serving the PUBLIC GOOD. And get away from this privatization crap

And once again... we started seeing these problems in so many clusters AFTER privatization. That alone should tell you something
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:52 PM
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7. "If this is a consular ship
Then where is the ambassador?"

Sorry just geeking out for a moment.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:29 PM
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9. That was funny
:-)
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:38 PM
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14. A distraction from WMD lies, illegal war, torture, illegal surveillance, USAs, Abramoff, .....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:53 AM
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15. Not quite, add it to the spygate in the US
all these things are connected.

:-)

By the way, accessing that file (or files as we learned today) is part of the illegal surveillance

Try connecting some dots.
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